Hammer, you probably shouldn't look at a pedigree and assume anything of the sort. Edie was a fine boned dog. Tippi was a fine boned dog. Spanky was a brutal dog, but folks don't know if he was complete or not. I fed a lot of dogs bred similar to all of those dogs during my time in dogs, and I never had many I would call durable and certainly not complete by any stretch.

Now, like anything else, when you get a good dog from the various lines, it's good, etc. Try not to make those assumptions. You'll be disappointed over and over.