THE BADDEST DOGS IN HISTORY

[Officially Retired]

The 'UNKNOWN' buttons for the breeder and owner were never active and I can't click on them to update. We had a power failure when I was making the pedigree and when I completed the pedigree at a later time those options were no longer available to me. I also found that some of the pedigrees I made were the same way. I contacted CYJ about the pedigree sections I did not have access to and he fixed them.

If the 'UNKNOWN' section for breeder and owner are active I will make the corrections/additions.

And yes to both questions, looked lame in comparison and throat dogs are murder. EWO

Okay, thanks.

The dog became a "core dog" when we created that feature. I have changed this and you can now edit.

Would you please complete the entry on it?

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=37883

Also, adding some of his history to the notes would be interesting too, for those who come upon the pedigree but might not have read this thread

[dtakennels]

Couple things on that ped....Hollands Dollar and Hollands Red Girl are littermates....Also on peds online it seems a lot of the dogs out of Red Baron and Miss Spazz have James Edwards breeding them...This is also false...While James did get some pups off of both dogs he never had anything to do with either and they were never on his yard at any time...Both dogs were bought from Vernon Jackson by Tim Pernell....Dwight Pulley and his partner went and picked them up for Tim from VJ....While he was still in SC....Dwight Pulley later got both dogs when Tim was shot and killed 1 night after a dispute at a local store....

Hate to Hijack the thread..

[EWO]

No hijacking. I could tell that same story but it is always better coming from the source. Tim was a few years older than me but we played a little baseball together in he mid 80's. Heck of an arm. All that happened while I was away.

Speaking of hijacking, you should type while Pops talks and drop some of that old school knowledge.

He will laugh here. "You can come back anytime you like, but don't bring that loud mouthed SOB with you"

EWO

[Officially Retired]

Couple things on that ped....Hollands Dollar and Hollands Red Girl are littermates....Also on peds online it seems a lot of the dogs out of Red Baron and Miss Spazz have James Edwards breeding them...This is also false...While James did get some pups off of both dogs he never had anything to do with either and they were never on his yard at any time...Both dogs were bought from Vernon Jackson by Tim Pernell....Dwight Pulley and his partner went and picked them up for Tim from VJ....While he was still in SC....Dwight Pulley later got both dogs when Tim was shot and killed 1 night after a dispute at a local store....

Hate to Hijack the thread..

Not a hijack at all, good feedback with clarifying info.

[No Quarter Kennel]

Just spoke with Sam Cates on Bolita ... she was stolen from his yard by Jeff McManus, who changed her name to Red Sonya.

As far as Cates knows, Bolita is only a 1xW, so her standing has been changed here to reflect this.

This is great ... trying to clarify history on famous dogs by those in the know ... and then documenting it in the database, photos and everything.

Fun

Not arguing, simply b/c I do not know first hand, but McManus is known to be an honest man.
Not discrediting anything Mr. Cates said, just contradicts what a lot of folks in this area think about Jeff.
Food for thought

[Officially Retired]

Not arguing, simply b/c I do not know first hand, but McManus is known to be an honest man.
Not discrediting anything Mr. Cates said, just contradicts what a lot of folks in this area think about Jeff.
Food for thought

Sometimes it's hard to know who to believe, true.

[No Quarter Kennel]

No doubt about that. Like anyone I've met and had some business with, if I can offer my own perspective, I will, especially if it's positive. Doesn't change anything......just my understanding.

The dogs are SUBMERSED in bullshit and bullshitters.......too bad. Mucks up the waters!

[STA8541]

The dogs are SUBMERSED in bullshit and bullshitters.......too bad. Mucks up the waters!

Totally agree. It's a large part of the problems w/the game.

[YELLOWJOHN]

AJAX MONGOOSE

[MOSES]

I have got to give the nod to HK Mike:
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=7498 she really was just that good in the box!
Dog Boy Matt:
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=8854 the general, was a total package!