I see this thread evolving, so I hope that's acceptable here today, but here's another consideration for different angles concerning nutrition and what to feed.

How many of you guys have seen people feed 50$ and higher a bag of dogfood or feed almost ideal RAW diet and the dogs look great and do great and live a normal life span with little to no problems, but sooner or later - get the cancer?
How many of you guys have seen people feed cheap ass kibble and the dogs look great and do great and live a normal life span with little to no problems, but sooner or later, THEY LIVE TO BE 15+ freakin years old?

I know there are exceptions to all rules. I really get that. I also believe, 100% that feeding a properly designed RAW diet is the best way to go fro all dogs. I think it is IDEAL - no question about it.
However, I question the expense and trouble at times when I see so much living breathing proof that in a LOT of ways (not all) that it seems to not matter much at all. I've seen stud dogs reach ROM status on some of the cheapest shit food imaginable along with bulldogs winning in top competition on corn flakes (remember's Bill's keep - LOL?) and then I've seen just the opposite on performance canine designed PERFECT nutrition plan.

So where's the line? Is it this? A man HAS to feed RAW or he's a lazy piece of shit OR A man simply do the best he can? If a man's best isn't RAW, but it's his best, is he lazy? Is he a sorry individual? There's no way the majority of this board feeds RAW. NO WAY! The majority of this board feeds Kibble. So is the majority of this board lazy? I don't think so

I believe it's good to have extremes, but the fact is - these are dogs. We have some folks acting like they should be fed better than our children. I have some dogs I love and I have some dogs I love what they do, but really, don't like as individuals too much at all. They all get the same treatment. They typically get the best I can afford and offer. I find that to be lessening as time goes by, so dogs are leaving my yard to be cared for in a way I know will benefit them and me both.

Just stuff for discussion - that's all.