A FUN TOPIC HEAD SIZE BIG, SMALL OR MEDIUM WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE ?

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My reading comprehension skills are pretty on point. However I think you could probably follow some of your own advice. Considering I clearly said Chinaman had a smaller head.

You started out saying Chinaman had a small head, then you said "all the dogs I mentioned had at least an average sized head. If not larger."

And I said the rest were at least what I consider average. If not slightly above.

No, that's not what you said; THIS is what you said:

Zebo, Boomerang, Queen of Hearts, Shady Lady, Banjo, Bad Rosemary. That, s some serious mouth. All of these dogs were atleast what I consider average. If not large headed dogs. It looks like maybe Chinaman had a little bit smaller head.

Then I SHOWED YOU that Bad Rosemary's head was rather small compared to her neck and body, as was Shady Lady, who looked almost pin-headed to me.

There is no way anyone with eyes to see can call Shady "large-headed," but you did. (See 1st quote above, your words.)

Then you said,

If shady lady and bad Rosemary have pin heads than 70% of the breed is below average.

I never called Bad Rosemary "pinheaded," so YES, your reading comprehension needs serious help. (I only said that about Shady.)

I will again re-quote myself about the rest, so maybe it can sink-in if you read it the second time:

I also said The Queen had an average head IMO, but certainly wasn't bucket-headed or exaggerated in her head size.

I said Zebo was also about average for a male.

We did agree that Banjo had a pretty good-sized nugget on him.

I stated Boomerang had an average (to slightly below-average) sized head on him, for a male, IMO. Again, there is no fogging way Boomer had a "large" head for a male.

And we also agree that Chinaman's head was somewhat smaller than average.

So again, for the slow, of the 7 hard-mouthed dogs you yourself just mentioned, only 1 (Banjo) had what could be called a "large" head for his size
2 (Zebo/Queen) had average-sized heads
and 4 (Boomer, Bad Rosemary, and especially Shady Lady, and Chinaman) had average to below-average sized heads.

Only 1 dog on your list had what could be described as a "large" head.
Is there anything about that you don't understand, or can twist in some way?

Once again, I never said Bad Rosemary was pin-headed.

You not only mis-quote me, you can't even remember what you say yourself.

You also said boomer rose and shady all had below average heads origionally.

And I still do say that, genius

And that poncho at a much bigger head than all of them proportionally. now you say zebos might be comparable. Which were some backpedals of your own.

I agreed that Zebo had the same head SHAPE as Poncho, and one photo it looked comparable, and the rest not at all. In fact, here was your own backpedaling comment when you saw Poncho's head.

Didn't Realize ol poncho had it like that.

Which was basically an, "Oh shit, I was wrong," statement.

I don't think head size has any bearing on how well a dog will perform overall. However I do think that most dogs with heavy mouth have at least an average sized head. We are basically in agreement. I just feel it's average to slightly above. In most cases. And if zu kill had a big head it kinda goes toward proving that.

Again, you have some serious comprehension issues.

I did not say head size affects how a dog performs, so where are you pulling that new tangent out of?

The subject was BITING, not performance, they're two completely different subjects

However I do think that most dogs with heavy mouth have at least an average sized head. We are basically in agreement. I just feel it's average to slightly above. In most cases.

You're like a broken record ... so let's just agree to disagree.

My own position is that, in MOST cases, the truly hard-biting dogs are average to SLIGHTLY below-average in head-size, not average to "large-headed" dogs ...

And if zu kill had a big head it kinda goes toward proving that.

Zukill was a finisher, not a freak-biter, which (again) is a completely different topic. He would go in the guts, and the throat, and had FREAK BODY & NECK STRENGTH (not freak mouth).

Stormbringer also had a larger-than-average noggin, but again he was not a "freak biter," what he had was also FREAK BODY & NECK STRENGTH and was a finisher in the throat. And I think finish + body/neck strength are more important traits than mouth.

Hope this clarifies,

Jack