Quote Originally Posted by luvmybulldogs
I would have to disagree with you jack on me skipping some steps.I dont think i skipped anything at all.
Judging them before schooling them is skipping steps, is it not?


Quote Originally Posted by luvmybulldogs
Made a mistake in judgement by putting two greenies together when i know better... yeah, took shortcuts... no sir. Shortcuts wont get my yard where I want it to be.
Well, we just disagree then. Going from "first time down" to "judged" in the same roll is the very definition of shortcut-taking IMO.


Quote Originally Posted by luvmybulldogs
If anything, I feel like im setting a standard. Again jack these hounds are 3 years old. Both of them.
You are setting a standard for quick judgments, and taking a shortcut on schooling, that is all I am seeing here.

Neither Chinaman nor Dibo would start until 4 or 5 respectively ...


Quote Originally Posted by luvmybulldogs
I gave in on hound A because of your example with ch vengenance... not gave in but realized hey maybe im being a little hasty.... on the other hand, hound b IMO is a cull. she is 3 years old and with limited space, she has to go.
You're being hasty with both, the principle is the same across the board, but that is your right to do.


Quote Originally Posted by luvmybulldogs
If chinaman or dibo was in my possesion and didnt start at three years old, they would be "walking the green mile" however, im not breeding a family of dogs... i just got a couple bulldogs guys....
Well, here again, the decision to kill 3 year olds that won't start has nothing to do with actual "standards of excellence," as you've never owned a dog as excellent as either Chinaman or Dibo, which means your decisions are just a matter of impatience, limited space, and the preference for early starters. Excellence has to do with ACTUAL ABILITY, once started and once schooled, not on how quickly they're willing to crank-on and go.

As I mentioned in my first example, Pretty Boy was by far an earlier-starting, better-acting young dog than Silverback ... but as far as "True Excellence" goes, Silverback has more ability and physical excellence in his toenail than Pretty Boy had in his whole body.

The desire and willingness to "start early on the first time down" is not excellence; it's just early starting.

Jack

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