The scenario i gave is exactly how it happened. i also felt the same way and expressed it to my partner but hey.... another look wont hurt. I just wait on them that's all and my partner did a year of the three years on vacation. I was working with them while he was away and conditioning their minds. That's why i felt so strongly about what happened and i felt they should be culled. we dont have a lot of space, both hounds are well of age, and even though unschooled, I felt the willingness to continue should have been there. Now jack made a point about fighting a cur. Hound B is not worth a chain spot, period. Hound A will get another look.... both was going to be looked at again but hound B showed nothing at all.