I would never judge any dog on its first time down, and I would never try to "start" any dog with a dog that has no experience either.

Ch Vengence himself stopped on his first roll, after beating the piss out of a growly-snappy cur who then stood the line. Vengence was young, he was confused by the cur-snapping, and he was disinterested in fighting a cur.

The owner called me with a similar "What do I do?" question, I told him to conduct himself like a professional dogman, not an amateur kid, and put his young dogs only with AN EXPERIENCED BULLDOG, not another green chump. So the guy put Vengence in there with a real bulldog ... that pissed him off and brought out his best ... and the rest (as they say) is history.

Jack


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