If dogmen had the ability to do things intelligently here, and if people (who knew) could accurately enter-in the data, then The Pit Bull Bible Online APBT Database would offer the best way in which to determine a mean quotient for any dog's ability to produce.

We have at our fingertips the ability to add # of breedings, # of pups, # of wins/losses, Champions, etc. ... and all of this data could be crunched together to provide the most meaningful statistics possible on any dog's ability to produce. Therefore, the dog who was bred 100x could be measured quaLItatively against the dog that was only bred 15x, by getting a mean quotient (percentage success rate) per-pup produced.

The trouble is, too many imbeciles canNOT enter in dogs correctly ... they do NOT bother to put in all pertinent info ... or they enter-in duplicate data, etc. ... on top of which nobody knows the entire breeding history/pup history of all the dogs that have been bred since antiquity. The only thing we as members here can do, is start where we stand, and enter in ALL the breedings we've done, and are doing NOW, all the pups, etc., and realize that in 20 years no one will care about yesterday's dogs anymore, but that the dogs we have control of TODAY can all be quantified accurately ... IF we each take the time today (and every day) to enter those numbers in correctly.

Ultimately, the concepts of POR/ROM are efforts to give credit to producers ... however, when analyzed under the microscope (and with no significance given to #of breedings, etc.) these systems are laughable jokes compared to our ability here to crunch all the numbers that this database provides. I suggest the viewer who doesn't know what I am talking about review the video Bulldog Statistics: Why We Rock to understand how much more sophisticated our bulldog production analysis/system has the potential to be ... and why I get so effing pissed at retards who cannot enter in data here correctly. (They fuck up everything.)

So before anyone questions "me" for giving the immediate boot to idiots who enter bad data here ... they ought to remember that 1) everyone gets an email asking them to PLEASE watch the videos first, 2) everyone who clicks on the Pedigrees tab gets to see in all red letters another reminder NOT to enter in any dogs until they watch the videos first, and 3) that when these fucking idiots just enter-in a bunch of dogs/duplicates anyway, they destroy this database's greatest feature, ITS STATISTICAL ABILITIES, in the process ... for all of the good, conscientious members who DO watch the videos, and who DO take the time to enter-in dogs correctly.

So pardon me if I don't have too much patience for idiots who don't bother to read/follow my instructions and cull them immediately

Jack