Look dude, first of all, you really need to drop all the "son" and "kid" bullshit. The only time I see a guy contradict himself within two sentences, it's usually a moron but you don't see me calling you a moron b/c I can't understand your point

Second and most important, you take a good long time getting around to a point. You first said, if you look up and have a yard full of game plugs, you essentially don't have anything and yet you want to argue gameness is paramount. That is without a question, a contradiction.

Third, you are now saying "an ace is an ace". This I agree with. It doesn't qualify him to be anything other than what he is, when he was, against who he did it and how he did it. You are the one speculating b/c you say they can beat anyone, anywhere, anytime, etc.

Lastly, I never said aces then are not on the same level as aces. This has been you point of emphasis b/c it is easier to prove your point. I simply said that dogs, as whole, are better today than yesterday. That's my opinion and it won't change.

I'm done arguing with you b/c this is exactly how a great thread like this gets all screwed up. You know, a guy calling names and talking in circles. So, I will NOT respond to you about this any further.

Have a great day sir!