Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS be Part of DOY Candidacy?

[No Quarter Kennel]

And there are a lot of the legends of yesterday that would destroy some of the dogs of today.

Don't kid yourself: good dogs are where you find em. When you find em's got nothin to do w/it.

I'm not kidding anyone, much less myself. You are right about "legends" of yesterday destroying "some dogs of today". However, there are just "some dogs" that could beat "legends" of yesterday. I know good ones are where you find them. Learned that in my first Stratton book years ago. However, there are better today than yesterday. My opinion.

You know, Jessie Owens is a legend of yesterday.He ran in the 10.3's.
I routinely see High School Kids of today run in the sub 10.5's EVERY year and about every other year, I see multiple 10.3's at the State Meet. Multiple High School BOYS that would routinely beat a WORLD CLASS LEGEND. The examples and proof is everywhere.

[Officially Retired]

I'm not kidding anyone, much less myself. You are right about "legends" of yesterday destroying "some dogs of today". However, there are just "some dogs" that could beat "legends" of yesterday. I know good ones are where you find them. Learned that in my first Stratton book years ago. However, there are better today than yesterday. My opinion.

You know, Jessie Owens is a legend of yesterday.He ran in the 10.3's.
I routinely see High School Kids of today run in the sub 10.5's EVERY year and about every other year, I see multiple 10.3's at the State Meet. Multiple High School BOYS that would routinely beat a WORLD CLASS LEGEND. The examples and proof is everywhere.

These kids also start younger, have better training, better nutrition, better shoes, better track, etc. ... (e.g., I believe Jesse Owens ran his time on cinders ...)

[STA8541]

These kids also start younger, have better training, better nutrition, better shoes, better track, etc. ... (e.g., I believe Jesse Owens ran his time on cinders ...)

I love these arguments where kids try to "prove" that today's athletes (2 footed or 4 footed) are "better" than the legends of yesteryear. Such a thing can never, ever be truly proven to a certainty. All that has improved, as has been stated, is nutrition, training methods, etc. But the basic genetic material? No. So of course it begs the question what would Jesse Owens or whoever do w/today's technology? Again, impossible to state, but if you're a betting man (& I am)...

Damn sure I bet Jesse Owens would smoke those "routine High School kids" all day every day till he got bored of doing it.

[STA8541]

There are just "some dogs" that could beat "legends" of yesterday...there are better today than yesterday. My opinion.

You said that. And I said that there are just some "legends" of yesterday that could beat "some dogs" of today. There are better yesterday than today too. You're entitled to your opinion. I am also entitled to mine. Aces are aces, period. Era doesn't matter a whit.

You know, Jessie Owens is a legend of yesterday.He ran in the 10.3's.
I routinely see High School Kids of today run in the sub 10.5's EVERY year and about every other year, I see multiple 10.3's at the State Meet. Multiple High School BOYS that would routinely beat a WORLD CLASS LEGEND. The examples and proof is everywhere.

And if I gave Jesse Owens the exact same shoes, track surfaces, nutrition, coaching, & training methods, then turned him loose on your high schoolers, he would leave them a shambles in his wake. You are giving all those edges to the youngsters, none of which have a whit to do w/ability. Cite whatever examples & alleged "proof" you like & the response is always & forever the same. Legends are legends & can beat anything at any time; that's why they're legends. You shouldn't punish an athlete for the era he/she played or fought in. Your opinion is your own; mine is mine.