Quote Originally Posted by Macker View Post
I just said a lot things, if that's how you read it then so be it. Let me lay it out a bit simpler.

Take gameness as the most solid foundation to build upon, if you have a solid family of game dogs you can build upon it in your breeding choices, if you constantly get game plug after game plug, ask yourself where your going wrong.

If you wanna twist what I say to make out something else but I take gameness as the single most important factor when breeding dogs.
Wasn't twisting anything, you said if you had ONLY all game plugs then you didn't have much. I agree. I also know what you MEANT. Just pointed out that you did say that and I agree. I also agree with what you say here. Gameness is #1, but it won't stand alone these days. Nothing will. You have to have a total package.

It makes me question some of these breedings off of frozen semen that are throw backs from 20+ years back. In 20 years, these dogs have evolved drastically in ability. There are a lot of dogs that would destroy some of the legends of yesterday. Why would anyone really want to breed to that older stuff? I know there are exceptions and I would do it myself to the right stud or straw, but it's just something to consider and think about.

And by the way, I don't agree you don't "Have Much" if all you have is game. Said that wrong. I just mean, you can't consistently win with gameness alone.

For the record, my vote was no