View Poll Results: Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS qualify a dog for DOY status?

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  • YES: Gameness is the essence of the breed, and dogs who show it to the extreme are deserving.

    47 55.29%
  • NO: The DOY title should only be about performance.

    38 44.71%
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Thread: Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS be Part of DOY Candidacy?

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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    Well, originally, my thought was ... "is ability all there is to greatness?"

    Is beating 3 mediocre Champions, where you're never really behind, a "greater accomplishment" than beating ONE devastating Champion, suffering incredible punishment, taking it all, and coming from WAY BACK to win on a huge HEART + Ability?

    Beating 3 Champions can mean a dog only has great ability, but yet never had to show HEART.

    Doesn't true greatness imply HEART also?

    Isn't the display of awesome heart the distinction between a front-runner and a legend?

    Maybe the idea of a second title, for gameness, is the best way to go ... but my original thought was, "Okay X dog may not have won 6x, but he did display a level of gameness that the 6xW Y never showed ..."

    Is true greatness only about # of wins?

    Jack
    True greatness could be a dog who won one show but showed gameness in coming back and beating a bad ass dog. Beating mediocre dogs mean nothing to be honest, I guess it comes down to who and what a said dog accomplishments.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by S_B View Post
    True greatness should encompass all of the accolades we are speaking of here.

    That is why it is my opinion a DOY should be the cream of the crop.

    The "Gamest" dog of the year only needs his/her gameness to be a consideration.

    A truly great thought provoking topic as usual Jack!

    S_B
    Quote Originally Posted by ragedog10 View Post
    True greatness could be a dog who won one show but showed gameness in coming back and beating a bad ass dog. Beating mediocre dogs mean nothing to be honest, I guess it comes down to who and what a said dog accomplishments.

    There is something sorely lacking in a system that doesn't recognize the SPIRIT in these dogs.

    The title DOY implies "Greatness" ... and part of greatness is ability/quality of opposition, etc., ... but part of greatness is ALSO unbelievable heart.

    Sure, a game plug might get GIS, and we can admire his spirit, but he isn't really a great dog. I understand that.

    However, some dogs *are* high ability animals, that also show incredible heart, and overcome incredible adversity, to win over some incredible opponents.

    This begs the question, would every Grand Champion take its death .. or be able to overcome the same abuse?

    Maybe Dog X can't win 6, and Dog Y can ... but yet Dog X did show incredible heart ... whereas Dog Y has not.

    I guess I am just thinking out loud

  3. #3
    Titere was in a cast before #5 , he over came a lot heart worms and such.

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