Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
If you look at the other dual Gr Ch DOY Killer Combine's Gr Ch Vengeance (6xW, DOY, POR, ROM), (who beat Gr Ch Hobo), Vengence was pretty much exclusively an Eli/Carver cross also ... whereas the entire bottom side of Hobo was some nondescript "pure Colby" breeding (with his topside being a Nico Jr./Poncho/Mayday cross). Of course, some of the old-School Loposay dogs (based on Colby) produced some murderous animals, but "pure Colby blood" is not really thought of much today as a competitive option.

The Indian Sonny blood behind Gr Ch Vengeance was almost exclusively Eli/Carver blood. Sonny also had some of the best old Corvino blood to be had as well. In fact, it really is a shame that Pat Patrick stole Bolio from Sonny, as (if you look at the pedigrees) Sonny was actually making better and more exciting breedings with Bolio than Patrick was. (Check out some of the pedigrees behind Vengeance to see what I am talking about, as the No Regrets dog Patrick had was another theft from Sonny. In fact, it could properly be said that thefts from Indian Sonny made Pat Patrick ...)

I guess it was good for the fraternity that Pat got Bolio, and made the breedings he did make, because Pat sold them all over the world (while Indian Sonny kept his private) ... but, strictly from a pedigree standpoint, I like what Sonny was doing with Bolio better better than what Patrick did. In fact, Ch Indian Bloomers (from Sonny's breeding) decimated Patrick's Pinky (Red Baby's sister, from Patrick's breeding) in the pit ... with Bloomers being yet another devastating Eli/Bolio cross, with a dash of Corvino

History does have a way of repeating itself ...

Jack
Out of curiosity what's people's view on Midnight actually being Down from Pit General and the steeling of pit general, the dog that Danny Burton called "the greatest dog to ever walk the face of the earth"