Nut, STP wouldn't know as they were outta dogs at that point. EGK, it's possible. I know they faked some wins on a dog, but I can't remember which one it was. Either way Nut, a dog that defeats 3 grand champions, a champion, and a 2xw WILL be public knowledge in the dog world in this country. That would be touted all over with who knows how many thousands of dollars collected in stud fees and pup sales, especially in this day and age. The only dog alive in the last 10 years I can think of with a resume like that is Ch. Silver in Europe. I'm in the backwoods of the US, and I heard of that dog doing that winning.