DEBATE ON DEX / SOLU-DELTA / CORTICO-STEROIDS

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Even though they have short half life dosage. My concern was fluid would withdrawal at a much higher rate as the dosage for anti swelling purposes. Thanks for giving a better understanding.

Hope this link works: Volvulen It opens in PDF so it probably doens't work on phone.

Why on earth dry a dog out completely depriving him of fluids and giving the kidneys a death sentence. Would you drain your radiatorbbefore a race?

Because stupidity. But it was just to indicate the amount of fluid loss in short time.

[Officially Retired]

Even though they have short half life dosage. My concern was fluid would withdrawal at a much higher rate as the dosage for anti swelling purposes.

You have to learn to distinguish between "your concern" (imagination) and reality.

Your concern is legitimate. Definitely.

The reality is, no dog is going to piss-out 1000 ml of fluids faster than you can get it into him with a bolus dose of IV Fluids.

And hell, if the dog does piss out a big amount of fluids, CELEBRATE!, because it means his kidneys are now working

And then, guess what? You can run another bag of fluids in him and not give anymore dex/solu ... and keep him hydrated

Again, these drugs at that dose are for the VERY short term. ONCE ... maybe TWICE ... but no more

If they make him have to get up and piss, great! That is progress and a big relief!

You can discontinue (or drastically lower) the cortic-steroid dose, and keep on giving IV fluids.

When he's eating, and drinking, you stop giving those drugs altogether at that point, and continue with fluids and antibiotics.

Thanks for giving a better understanding.

You're welcome

Hope this link works: Volvulen It opens in PDF so it probably doens't work on phone.

Honestly, I haven't used it. The symptoms show an irregular heart beat and I am not sure that is something I would want to do in a life-n-death thing.

But I have no experience, and know of no one who has either, so I can't be of much help here, sorry.

Jack

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The reality is, no dog is going to piss-out 1000 ml of fluids faster than you can get it into him with a bolus dose of IV Fluids.

And hell, if the dog does piss out a big amount of fluids, CELEBRATE!, because it means his kidneys are now working

And then, guess what? You can run another bag of fluids in him and not give anymore dex/solu ... and keep him hydrated

Again, these drugs at that dose are for the VERY short term. ONCE ... maybe TWICE ... but no more

If they make him have to get up and piss, great! That is progress and a big relief!

Jack

This is the simple truth, why one could not grasp this is beyond me. Any why try to complicate things further if you are not as experienced as the ones laying it out for you?

I can see trying to debate this, or using other products if you have the field experience and medical knowledge. But why try to tweak or change what knowledgeable veterinarians, vet techs and dogmen have been doing to save a warrior or any animal experiencing trauma and shock?

It is best to learn these methods first and be great at them before questioning them.