Quote Originally Posted by Macker View Post
I've heared it said Norman Kemmer culled anything that didn't start up by 12 or 13 months and anything that fought the head, he wanted balls out chest dogs with loads of mouth and I think he achieved that. I believe he had a super record of 27 straight wins with 1 loss and then another 10 or 11 on the trot.

Just another example of knowing your line and what to look for.
We had/have some kemmer dogs and in there pure form they seriously lack durability, they were thick winded, they have paper skin and they're very hard to save after a show, nearly like they lack the will to keep going. I've heard stories of them dying from the cold in other countries.

When we crossed them back into our own stuff we started getting more durable types of dogs, we quickly learned how to tell as a young pup which ones would turn out like the kemmer type mainly by the fine skin. When you get to know your dogs and your line you get to know what to look out for in your pups.

My point being Mr Kemmer wanted a dog that got the job done fast but I think the line may have suffered in other areas, well the ones we had did anyway.


absolutely not. . You couldn't be farther from the truth. the Kemmer were much more stupid than that. Norman and later Mitch were complete sociopaths. they were the stupidest dogmen to grace our planet. They lied on pedigrees, they culled anything from 6 weeks and up that ram away from the pen when you approached it. From the first roll.. if it went ONE time to the ear or head or muzzle.. . They would cull it. if the dog was overpowered in the actual match, and went to the head to recover, and came back to win in the throat or backend.. They would cull it after the show for having gone to the head. they weren't dogmen, they were fucking idiots that read the confederate Bible every night before bed and hunted African Americans for sport. Mitch had a shirt that had a pictureoof MLK on the front that said.. He had a dream, the back had the same picture but with crosshairs.. Said.. ours came true. Anyhow.. even after years of culling anything that went to the head... They still got half head dogs.. at the end Mitch was disgusted and sold all to a guy in northern California who still has them today. And the record was complete bullshit.. They lost more than they won because of the quality of dogs and decision making of Mitch, they did bring them right, and they were prepared with a written plan for anythingtthat could happen, but the judgement on dogs and confederate madness mixed in with dog ideology was their undoing.

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