Quote Originally Posted by Stoneline View Post
Ok GENIUS here you go http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=555&cat=boxer check his first two fights, this is his professional record GENIUS what weights were those at? NOW ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG.

You said SRL slapped Hagler silly, not bitch slapped or pitty patted. I said Hagler was never outclassed and you said "oh you must have forgot about Leonard"

The fight was a draw on the cards duh we all know that, that does not mean it was close. Lennox Lewis vs Holyfield was a draw too ON THE CARDS but anyone with half a boxing brain knows who won those fights.

Jack I know this is the highlight of your life arguing online all day because you have no family life and no dogs so off you go. I will show my true character now by not replying to you anymore so you will have to find someone else to keep you occupied.

Son, I am arguing FACTS, you are arguing "opinion." And, YES, Leonard outclassed Hagler with his brain (I have already covered why).
And the fight wasn't a "draw" either; the FACT is, Hagler LOST. Your "opinion" means nothing.

Now, as to Chavez/Whitaker (which you're trying to avoid), classic, you provide a link which PROVES you are too freaking clueless to realize that 134 lb is still within the LIGHTWEIGHT limit

Admit "I" was wrong?
Um, genius, you need to step up and admit YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

Reality check: 135 is the MAX a fighter can be and still be a Lightweight.
That means a 134 lb fighter is still a lightweight, 1-lb shy of the MAX for that division

130 lb is the MAX a fighter can be to be a Junior Lightweight ... which means 134 lb is 4-lb OVER the Junior LW limit
Whitaker was NEVER a Junior Lightweight (even in the Olympics, he fought as a Lightweight);
Chavez' last fight at Junior Lightweight, after 55 fights, was @ 129 lb

Whitaker was always a LIGHTWEIGHT ...
Jesus, can you get anything right

By your own link, Whitaker clearly BEGAN his pro career at 134, 5-lb bigger than Chavez was after his 55th fight;
Meanwhile Chavez FINISHED his Junior Lightweight career (55 fights) at 129, or less, which is 5-lb lighter than Whitaker was when he began his pro career);
(Chavez began his pro career at 121.)

So, again, YOU are the one who is wrong on every level;

You can't add and subtract;
You think "your opinion" is a "fact," which makes you unable to be reasoned with;
You can't admit something as obvious as the numerical fact that 134 is greater than 129;
You can't admit something as obvious as the numerical fact 145 is greater than 142 (which is the weights Whitaker/Chavez actually fought at);
You don't understand 134 lb, the weight Whitaker first was when he turned pro, is still in the lightweight division;
You don't see that Chavez first began his career at 121, and fought under the 130 lb limit for all of his prime career, while Whitaker began his career just under the 135 limit, and then quickly moved up;
(Whitaker even fought at the 135 lb limit as an amateur in the Olympics as a very young man ...)

There is not ONE, SINGLE objective fact which gives you a reason to say, "Chavez was the bigger man," which makes you (and your entire belief system surrounding Chavez) WRONG.
The FACT is, Chavez was the SMALLER man, all throughout his career, as well as on the actual fight night (Chavez' 88th and Whitaker's 33rd).

Thus YOU are the one who needs to man-up and admit he is wrong here ... "genius"