Man this is a good ass topic. I had to call my cousins to ask their opinion on what they thought bout the gamest one i've had and we all came up with the same dog. http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=32395. I breed redboy/ jocko dogs yet this is the gamest dog i have ever witness in my life. She had 3 flats early in the trip and still pulled it off with row boat runs and finished.