In the SDJ of May 2011 there is an article written that was supposedly rewritten from an article ten years earlier by Beat Down Kennels in the AGDT that claims otherwise. The article is about Finaplex and which is made from Trenbolone. So there still are people who don't know how to figure it out or read between the lines that the compounds are not the same. If anyone wants to see the article just get me an email address or some digits and I will send you the article via text message.