Steve was the fella asked about Snapps straws. From what I was told is they were sold. May have gotten a line on some others. Waiting to confirm they're available and verify their legit.

As far as gameness I RESPECT & ADMIRE it as the utmost important trait. Though when trying to produce competitive athletes it's not the only factor. Main factor, most important factor, but not the only factor. TRADITIONS & STANDARDS are upheld here. I hear Curs are good chum for Catfishing.

I'm have a Gonner/Indian/Maloney female that was given to me. The one stipulation is they get one breeding off her. Hence why we're looking for the Snapps straws. There's other directions we could go, but feel if within our reach, that's the way we're going to go. It was first on their mind and since, I haven't seen another ped I'd like to back her up too.

Beeding to one or passing on it, is totally in the eyes of the beholder. Depending on what they have and are trying to create in many ways dictate which direction to breed in. I remember people who would pass up Andy to breed to Calvin.