I talked to V.J. last night. He told me he did go and check out those Colby dogs that were close by him. Said he did not like what he saw. That some of the locals had tried some out. Were not up to scratch compared to the more popular bloodlines being used. So there may be a good one here and there. From so many years of non competition, it appears bred on name only to long. The Colby line has seen it's heyday. Best use what we have today and preserve the purer tested lines we have.

I still feel after chatting on line with some dog men that have had some of the best Vise Grip dogs. This still is a excellent line to preserve or cross with, if someone feels they need to add some new blood to their dogs. I see a lot of Pit Bull in such smaller packages. Was looking at a black & white bitch that I believe is now deceased, bred off a Vise Grip dog that was killed by two R. Ridgeback hounds. Bitch Looks like the old timey Tudor/Carver Black Widow blend. Stated weight was only 34 pounds. Without knowing and just looking at the picture. Could have passed for a 42 to 44 pound dog. Just, IMHO.

I reckon, I just like well built smaller old time Carver and some of the Mayfield blended dogs. Even though later in my last years in the dogs. I was trying to breed up bigger dogs since most of the lines had gotten bigger on the average. Mostly from the Paladin crosses and the Jocko-Red Boy crosses and Bully Son - Eli dogs. To each his own. Cheers