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Jack I personally wouldn't feed what I deem to be shitty feed.
Would I feed my dogs Loyal? He'll no, but it is made by one of the leading feed industries, Nutrena. It isn't the best choice in my opinion, or yours obviously.

What does being made by one of the leading feed industries mean, exactly?

Nutrena is a flyspeck compared to Purina. And Purina makes some of the worst feed ever bagged and (mis)labeled "dog food" ...

Can you show me scientific literature which says dogs are supposed to eat corn, wheat, glutens, beet pulps, or any of the first 10 ingredients on that bag of food (besides chicken 'byproducts' and fat)?

Quite frankly, it is an label abomination and lie to call those ingredients "dog food."

But if a member here chooses to feed it, who are we to judge?

Who am I? Really?

Well, let's see. Um, I own this GD place, I built it from the ground up, I pay the rent every month, and I busted my ass for 2 years writing "the book" on the breeding/raising these dogs, that's who

The question is, who are "you" to second-guess me on the subject? LMAO

Aside from THAT truth is the fact I am giving THE BEST advise, not saying, "Hey, it's okay to feed shit-food if you want."

That is not "advice," it is nothing.

Sorry, tip-toeing around the truth is not me and never will be me.

And I've seen an 18 year old cow dog who was fed whatever the feed store had handy when the cattlemen went to pick up grain. Who was healthy "looking". Don't think the rancher could have ever been convinced he done that dog wrong by not feeding optimally.

Citing individual exceptions is a waste of time and doesn't disprove the rule.

I know people who are "still alive," after not eating or exercising right, but that doesn't mean "the new rule" is NOT to eat well, nor does this mean you should advise other people not to eat well.

It means some people "get by" eating shit food ... but they will never excel.

The dog in my box to the left was 10 years old when I snapped that pic. Fed kibble his whole life and lived on a dirt circle.

Okay, but what does that have to do with anything, other than forcing me to repeat the previous response.

Being "fed kibble" and "living in a dirt circle" is simply not the optimal way to raise a dog.

You can post a hundred such photos but that will never translate to "best practice."

Motor City came here for help, so before we all hop on him and assume he's guilty of committing bad practices. We should give him a chance, don't ya think?

What I think is you should stop attempting to be the "CA Jack police," because it's a title you don't have, and actually come to grasp with the fact I WAS helping him

I was getting him to think in terms of BEST practice ... not "mediocre" practice.

Everything I said about that feed, and raising pups on dirt/grass (as opposed to above-ground pens) is 100% on the money. Period.

And I also believe I directly said this wasn't a slam on him personally, but designed to get him to THINK

Jack