The face = part of the head ... therefore, a face dog = a head dog.
Face dogs are a "small circle" within the "big circle" of head dogs.
Ear dogs are a "small circle" within the "big circle" of head dogs.
Cheek/jaw dogs are a "small circle" within the "big circle" of head dogs.
Mouth-fighting dogs are a "small circle" within the "big circle" of head dogs.
Etc.
To say any of these dogs are NOT "fighting the head" in
some spot is simply to be unaware of basic anatomy ...
However, to say you
prefer X
type of head dog, over another "type" of head dog, is something worthy of discussion ...
But to deny that any of these spots are "on the head" is absurd.
My own view, as a head-dog-producing specialist, is that face dogs
are the most destructive kind of head dog ... and typically most people's favorites ... but at the TOP of the heap, I would have to say that every truly ace EAR dog I have ever seen has whipped the best face dogs ... and has done so every time.
Now, keep in mind, there is a difference from a palooka being "on the ear" ... and an ACE ear dog ... that difference is hard to explain to someone who has never seen the difference ... but
when you see it you will know what I am talking about.
A good face dog is hard to beat ... and an ace face dog is pure poison ... but an ACE ear dog is practically untouchable ... even by the best face dogs.
It's not "the damage" caused by an ace ear dog, it is the **absolute control** that beats even the best opponents. Yet, the damage done to
the inner ear canal of a TRUE ear specialist can be pretty substantial, can hurt like hell after awhile, can totally mess-up the opponent's balance, equilibrium, and confidence ... and can bring out the cur in even the (so-called) "gamest" of dogs. That is, if the head dog grabs ENOUGH of the ear/base of skull in his holds, which truly great ear dogs do. You might want to check out
this thread for an idea of what I am talking about, seeing what a TOOTHLESS ace ear dog can do. (Scroll down to posts 5, 6, 7 ... on page 3.)
The
toothless, ace ear dog Ch Robert T Jr., for example, stopped four 4xWs from making Grand Champion ... and yet never broke the hide on any of them.
His father, Ch Robert T, had teeth, beat 9 opponents, including 2 Grand Champions and 2 4xWs ... and I can't think of any face dogs that have won that many (or any other kind of dog).
A lot of people don't realize this, but Gr Ch Tornado was an ace on the ear also, killing 3 dogs without getting a hole in her skin. Everyone talks about her wins, or her killing dogs in the brisket, but she slowed many of them down on the head, including Bobby Hall's Sunshine, who was killed with 3 holds: first on one ear ... second with a switch to the other ear ... and then handles made when his bitch turned. Bobby Hall's dog was drunk in the corner from the punishment to both ears, which destroyed his bitch's equilibrium. At release, Tornado buries Sunshine in the corner, and kills her in the brisket at like :17 ... but it was THE EAR HOLDS that kept Sunshine out of Tornado's guts, and softened-up Sunshine for the kill. I think that was the bitch's name, Sunshine.
Jack
Originally Posted by CA Jack
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