ok, why? the way you put it sounds like Jocko was a complete dog, it lacked gameness then?
I never made any statements saying that Jocko was a complete dog, and honestly No one can say he was or wasnt unless they actually seen him in show, but what i did say is that he had mouth which "Redboy dogs" did not have which is why the Tant and Mr Chavis made the cross.

sure not a problem with Eli dogs, so no reason to cross with redboy i figure
I never said that there was a problem with the Eli line, but what i did say is that if crossed with redboy it should probably produce the same type dogs with the same type of charecteristics just because eli and jocko strain both were both rough, hard mouth bulldogs, and if crossed with redboy genetics, it might have the same results



I AM NOT SAYING I AM RIGHT OR WRONG JUST CURIOUS, WHAT MIGHT BE THE RESULTS