Note how straight the back is on BBB. Note what some might call a Roach back or curved back on the Rueben dog, even shows on the Bolio dog. This is a trait in the Carver line of dogs. Some other Carver dogs I had seen up close had this trait. My three dogs being Young's Chuck, Young's Jake, Young's Winchester, had that same type build of the Ruben dog with the same type back and back end.

These type dogs have what I liked to call,a lugging diesel power of strength. Having strong tensile strength combined with the muscle strength. You could feel it when walking one of them. A steady strong pull on the lease. The dogs off my Chuck dog including Chuck were a laid back type of dogs. That did not waste unnecessary energy till something serious caught their attention. Being more calmer dogs and not nut case chain runners and root diggers. You would think they would be weaker dogs. But were strong as a Oxen.

Jack, most of us are all in agreement about the breeding on Mason's Hammer, at least I am. Fix the pedigree on this site and let the die hard Patrick dog men who want the BBB dog in the pedigree. Run with what they have from the ADBA. IMHO Cheers