Here are some great, pure Bolio/Carver-type dogs ... Grand Champions of Grand Champions ... NO Eli ... NO RBJ ... no real cross needed.



These are some of the great dogs I could find, with NO RBJ in there.

The list of Grand Champions over 7 wins with ELI blood in them is OFF THE CHARTS, mostly Eli/Carver, which of course includes Chinaman dogs and Boyles dogs.
There simply is no question that Eli dogs produce the winningest/baddest dogs out there. (Doesn't mean they're game, or in high-percentage, but they're BAD.)

The winningest RBJ dog, of course, was Gr Ch Barracuda (9xW), but again he needed 1/4 Bolio/Tombstone to get there.

There simply ARE NO pure RBJ Grand Champions with more than 6 wins
(If I am wrong, please show them to me.)

Yet there ARE Bolio/Carver dogs with this many wins
This means pure Carver/Bolio dogs have managed to win 7, 8, 9, and 14 wins withOUT RBJ ... whereas RBJ dogs CAN'T win that many times without Bolio/Tombstone blood in there

Interestingly, the winningest Redboy dogs of all time (7x, 8x, 10x) actually have NO JOCKO ... they're Redboy/Carver, Redboy/Frisco, Redboy/Eli ... and Redboy/Loposay. (Only 4 dogs.)
So, AGAIN, the Eli/Carver has to be in there
This is especially interesting because RBJ gets BRED MORE than all the other RB combos, and yet can't produce THE baddest dogs.

The MAJORITY of the multi-winningest dogs are basically Eli/Carver or Eli/Bolio (including Boyles/Chinaman) ... or straight Eli.

Just some preliminary findings using the Search Feature

Jack

PS: I ignore mentioning old, old-time dogs and speak only of more modern dogs.