Redboy / jocko has made more dead game dogs !

[Officially Retired]

Now let me tell you the truth. RBJ Dogs game as can be. Truth be told Red boy dogs are as dumb as they come, Yellow Dogs as smart as they come but who really wants a ear sucker. Mayday dogs can bite and balanced out and are all round athletes. Redboy dogs by themselves are not such a good line. Yellow dogs and may dogs. Basically same shit. Ear suckers and fancy foot work. This is what Great matches are made of. Going 3-4 hours, spectacular and heart moving but truth be told this is not what wins shows. In my personal Opinion from what i have seen in my country. Nothing compares with The Eli Line. Even the frisco/Tudor/Chinaman Line what i dislike wins like you cant beleive. Eli/Bolio is a unstoppable combination what produce dogs of such caliber they will shock ur socks of. My prefrence of the eli strain comes from the The mexican strain of Enrico Morfine dogs. i find that works with bolio the best and produce dogs what RBJ just cant. Thats my own personal opinion and i still run RBJ dogs but the truth is RBJ are not best dogs in terms of campaigning today. They work as a nice out cross and add some key attributes i find if u keep there blood at 25% or less in a breeding u will be taking there best atributes while allowing for less negavtives.

Well said! I agree!!!

I basically agree with your thinking.

As I mentioned, the winningest, baddest dogs from my line were mostly with Eli/Chinaman influence.

The Poncho/Mayday dogs I had were TANKS ... VERY solid dogs that BEAT two Grand Champions ... with at least 50 wins and 15 Champions produced ... and yet ONLY ONE made it to a 5xW.

That one dog that made it to a 5xW was a very badass, finishing bitch Nastyville's Gr Ch Ms. Serious ... and she had a touch of Eli in her through Wynn's Lina.

By all accounts, Gr Ch Ms. Serious was a deadly animal. The longest she went was :40 and that was pushing 2 lb into a Champion. Every other fight was a rout. I don't know if it's true or not, but Nastyville told me he collected a $6K forfeit from Cane Valley Kennels on his Gr Ch Baby Gracie bitch (this is said with respect to CVK, because I very much do respect him, but this is what I was told). I sure would have loved to have seen that one come off ...

But, at any rate, there have been 15 to 20 five-time winners + involving crosses with my blood ... and, I believe, Nastyville's Gr Ch Ms. Serious is one of only two that have anything to do with RBJ blood.
The other RBJ cross that produced a Grand Champion was Black Flag Kennels' Gr Ch Red, DOY, but this also had Eli/ and Boyles blood in it.

Every other dog of my line that became more than a 5xW I don't believe had a drop of the RBJ blood in it.
Again, in all of history, there are maybe 1 or 2 RBJ dogs that have gone beyond 6x winners ... but MULTIPLE Eli/Carver dogs have done so.

Jack

PS: This really could become an interesting topic for discussion, if everyone can just stick to facts and can 1) stop baseless cheerleading claims, and 2) stop the insults. We might start getting some productive ideas generated, actually.