Quote Originally Posted by creek_bottom View Post
I've been reading this thread for a few days now and I know that Jack certainly does his homework and provides many interesting factual statements. I've only been in these dogs for 11 years and I am personally a big fan of RBJ and Jeep/Redboy dogs although I've tries several other bloodlines over the past 11 years. I actually have a dog now down off some of Waccamaws stuff crossed to some Tab stuff that is doing well for himself.
Hi. Yes, I do try to do my homework, and either use facts to support what I say, or I don't say anything.

I am glad your dog is "doing well for himself," but what does that mean, exactly?

Won something? Looks good in his first roll? At what level has he done something well?



Quote Originally Posted by creek_bottom View Post
I'm in Texas and I can honestly say I've never had the opportunity to see any vise grip dogs at all. No poncho dogs no coca cola dogs no silverback dogs nothing. This probably has a lot to do with the small circle I keep and my limited time in the dogs. My question to you Jack is if I was interested in giving your stock a try what would be my best bet to go with? I know you don't maintain a large yard anymore but do you still breed and have dogs available? If not who do you feel is doing the best work out there now with your line? I know you are very knowledgeable on breeding and genetics as well what crosses if any worked best for you off your Hollingsworth stuff or is keeping it pure the way to go. Thanks in advance for any insight you can send my way.
Creek Bottom
There have been a few Poncho dogs in Texas. Get with Redrum on this forum if you're in Texas and want to see some. He has the Icestorm dog from me, who's "done well for himself" as a producer also. What I mean by that phrase is the first of his offspring won BIS in a huge Mexican convention not too long ago, and is getting bred to some of the best Champion and Grand Champion bitches in all of Mexico (Gr Ch Cheyenne, Ch Enana, etc.), since dozens of people (not a "small circle") saw him literally get his muzzle eaten off his face (as in, literally, removed--he can't be photographed anymore) ... and he still never quit and won the fight in 2:10 ... and lived.

So he might have something for you.

Good luck,

Jack