Quote Originally Posted by waccamaw View Post
First of all ,you just don't know what I have seen and I only say what I know for sure ! Second Carl crews never was a dog man just a crook peddler riding on tants shirt tail .and 3 rd I am not going to say I have seen a dog match in the past present or future ,only hog hunting for me guy.but I will say this only know what you see !
That's true. I don't know what you've seen.

Second, you again fail to stay on point. Now you're having a fit over Carl Crews. I happen to like Carl Crews.

But what I DON'T see you doing is 1) showing me the winningest/baddest dogs in the world with RBJ in their pedigrees ... or 2) admit that you were WRONG ... and that MOST of the winningEST/baddEST dogs in the world do not have RBJ in their pedigrees.

Jack

PS: In addition to what I have listed above, here is another TOP RBJ dog that lost to another Eli/Carver dog ... when Ch Noriega was defeated by Gr Ch Ajax. (I don't have Ajax' full ped, but I believe he was pretty much 100% Carver/Eli.)