I made a visit out that way some years ago and saw Jam, and a few dogs off him. Also saw some dogs off Shredder. Unfortunately, the dogs off Jam were still rather young, and while the Shredder dogs were ok, they weren't exactly my cup of tea. I know Shredder produced some winners when bred to Dirty White Boy I believe. That has been so long ago though. Always interesting when the world gets a little smaller when conversations merge together.

And I, like you, don't want to degrade an entire family on a few dogs. I know there were good Yellow dogs out there. I was just never really fortunate enough to see any that I really thought were something I'd want to feed or breed around.