EWO, I can remember going back and looking through a lot of the old SDJs at one time to find out what happened to the Jocko dogs, persay. What I found, through only the magazine and my deducation, is that the Jocko dogs WERE winning. BUT, they were also quitting a lot after winning 1 or 2. I think the only reason there are still any Jocko dogs around, in any form, is simply due to Yellow John being influxed into those dogs. There were heavy bred Yellow John dogs kicking around for years, but you never really saw many heavy Jocko dogs, certainly not anything like you would see the YJ dogs. I think the only heavy Jocko bred dog that had success in production, along with performance, was Ch.Termite. His son, Gabriel, did a good job production wise also, but I don't know how many times he was bred, so maybe the production bit goes down a lot depending on that aspect.

The Little John dog I was so fond of was a little heavier Jocko than Yellow John, but he was also the only Redboy/Jocko dog I've seen that I saw enough offspring from to be impressed with. The Yellow dogs I saw from Tant were never impressive to me. I never saw any heavy Redboy dogs from Mims, but I did see a yard of dogs from him that were those crosses of which you speak. There was one dog from that entire group of dogs that had that kind of honesty, and even that dog was a psycho, man-eating SOB.

It's too bad we couldn't take the best, or gamest, dogs from those particular strains, combine, go through, and keep strolling into the future.