Thats right, I see over seas like china bet over 100,000 us dollars and they aren't even that great of the dog. Plenty of dogmen will bet big bucks, so 5k is not ducking. I feel when you bet more than 5k and above than you just gotta to worry about the bs that comes along with it. Rub, cheating, guns and etc... It's not worth it. The crowd and people are different now. Most of people I know when I first started are all out.