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    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    dont get me wrong i have always been hard my dogs and kept a very high standard, which is why i have such a small yard. and as far as this pup goes if he didnt show me what he did in the yard accident i was going to get rid of him, but i just a gut feeling that is telling me not to get rid of the dog.
    Go with what your gut instinct tells you buddy. All you got to lose if he don't work out is time and money. Best of luck! I really hope he recovers and become an outstanding bulldog

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    WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    dont get me wrong i have always been hard my dogs and kept a very high standard, which is why i have such a small yard. and as far as this pup goes if he didnt show me what he did in the yard accident i was going to get rid of him, but i just a gut feeling that is telling me not to get rid of the dog.
    Are you kidding me?

    You have the lowest standards I have ever heard of ... on yourself ... and how YOU conduct your business as a dogman

    You are the textbook definition of "worst thing that could ever happen to a dog" ...



    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    Jack this is the same pup i posted about the bone deformatity problem. he walks slow, cant run, falls on his face, after a 20 min walk his body just completely goes out and he needs to lay down fror a while to recover.....to many problems with this hound, the only reason i am keeping him and holding on to him until he is adult because of the way he bred and is worth a lot of money, so mabey as he matures and his body fills out it might change. but as of right now i try to socialize him because he is shy and doesnt know anything. so i try to spend time with him and gain his trust,.
    Okay, so you're trying to socialize him (I guess), but I am just curious, do you do anything else right with your dogs?

    You keep them in crates till they're deformed; then you put them on ramshackle chain setups that are so embarrassing you delete the photos of them ...
    AND that they escape from (and get in yard accidents because of), etc.? (You remember I predicted that?)

    Now you're talking about putting them in a keep before he's 7 months old ... when he can't even walk straight ... or before the scabs have even fallen off from a kennel fiasco ... and you have the audacity to say YOU have "high standards?"

    Buddy, lift your head up and look in the mirror so you can see straight: you're a poster child for "the perpetual fuck-up" in dogs

    There is nothing "high" about your standards in ANYthing that I have either seen, or read about. Nothing.

    So I am curious, have you every thought about doing everything RIGHT instead of doing everything wrong?

    You might be surprised at how much better your dogs do ... some might even make it to old age on your yard.

    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    Are you kidding me?

    You have the lowest standards I have ever heard of ... on yourself ... and how YOU conduct your business as a dogman

    You are the textbook definition of "worst thing that could ever happen to a dog" ...







    Okay, so you're trying to socialize him (I guess), but I am just curious, do you do anything else right with your dogs?

    You keep them in crates till they're deformed; then you put them on ramshackle chain setups that are so embarrassing you delete the photos of them ...
    AND that they escape from (and get in yard accidents because of), etc.? (You remember I predicted that?)

    Now you're talking about putting them in a keep before he's 7 months old ... when he can't even walk straight ... or before the scabs have even fallen off from a kennel fiasco ... and you have the audacity to say YOU have "high standards?"

    Buddy, lift your head up and look in the mirror so you can see straight: you're a poster child for "the perpetual fuck-up" in dogs

    There is nothing "high" about your standards in ANYthing that I have either seen, or read about. Nothing.

    So I am curious, have you every thought about doing everything RIGHT instead of doing everything wrong?

    You might be surprised at how much better your dogs do ... some might even make it to old age on your yard.

    Jack
    When the hell did i say i was putting a pup into a keep?

    and since u take it their jack WE ALL REMEMBER PONCHO IN THAT SHIT SETUP WITH THAT DIRTY ASS TRANSPORTATION CRATE. and then u critisize my settup because you said it had a "large hole in the opening" and "bricks on the side to keep it stable" gtf out of here jack. HOW BIG WAS THAT OPENING OF PONCHO CRATE AND WT ABOUT HIS BRICKS ON THE SIDE OF HIS SHT CRATE. LETS ALL REMEMMBER WHERE WE CAME FROM



    "My dogs Get the best feed possible, walked daily, and no dogs are in crates unless they are injured ""

    I can post a pic of him right now and who wont be able to see any visible scars dumb ass.

    U go on and on ranting about conditions and shit you have no control over. U think that because u took many ideas from other people and pasted them on a paper and made a book that you are this ultimate "breeder", for christ you wasnt shit as a competitor, yes poncho thorugh a pretty good percentage and his offspring did decent, HOW MANY DID YOU ACTUALY CAMPAIGN YOUR DAMN SELF?

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    WTF?

    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    When the hell did i say i was putting a pup into a keep?

    and since u take it their jack WE ALL REMEMBER PONCHO IN THAT SHIT SETUP WITH THAT DIRTY ASS TRANSPORTATION CRATE. and then u critisize my settup because you said it had a "large hole in the opening" and "bricks on the side to keep it stable" gtf out of here jack. HOW BIG WAS THAT OPENING OF PONCHO CRATE AND WT ABOUT HIS BRICKS ON THE SIDE OF HIS SHT CRATE. LETS ALL REMEMMBER WHERE WE CAME FROM



    "My dogs Get the best feed possible, walked daily, and no dogs are in crates unless they are injured ""

    I can post a pic of him right now and who wont be able to see any visible scars dumb ass.

    U go on and on ranting about conditions and shit you have no control over. U think that because u took many ideas from other people and pasted them on a paper and made a book that you are this ultimate "breeder", for christ you wasnt shit as a competitor, yes poncho thorugh a pretty good percentage and his offspring did decent, HOW MANY DID YOU ACTUALY CAMPAIGN YOUR DAMN SELF?
    Damn!!!..I've never seen that video before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bently View Post
    When the hell did i say i was putting a pup into a keep?

    and since u take it their jack WE ALL REMEMBER PONCHO IN THAT SHIT SETUP WITH THAT DIRTY ASS TRANSPORTATION CRATE. and then u critisize my settup because you said it had a "large hole in the opening" and "bricks on the side to keep it stable" gtf out of here jack. HOW BIG WAS THAT OPENING OF PONCHO CRATE AND WT ABOUT HIS BRICKS ON THE SIDE OF HIS SHT CRATE. LETS ALL REMEMMBER WHERE WE CAME FROM



    "My dogs Get the best feed possible, walked daily, and no dogs are in crates unless they are injured ""

    I can post a pic of him right now and who wont be able to see any visible scars dumb ass.

    U go on and on ranting about conditions and shit you have no control over. U think that because u took many ideas from other people and pasted them on a paper and made a book that you are this ultimate "breeder", for christ you wasnt shit as a competitor, yes poncho thorugh a pretty good percentage and his offspring did decent, HOW MANY DID YOU ACTUALY CAMPAIGN YOUR DAMN SELF?


    Skip to 9:22.

    And who's giving away them Silverback dogs?

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    and i never kept a pup in a crate his whole life. He is in with me for most of the day, and when it times for bed he is put into crate

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    Didn't mean nothing by my post its just hard for anyone to answer your questions without the facts more then likely the hound will not recover but i respect you for giving it a chance. When working a dog with a defect like you talk about the risk of injuring it further is high there is no way i can think of besides a swim tank that would be beneficial to the hound and im not 100% that it wont injure itself there. Best of luck

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    Have to agree , i remember now the dog has rickets from being crated all day. Put the dog down and end its misery the way you describe the dog it doesnt sound valueable at all. Keeping him alive is cruel if you ask me do the right thing its sounds like the dog has permanent damage from being couped up. Yis Ole Man

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    Bently, this dog is badly deformed in the front end, for what ever reasons. That dog can not take any serious work. My brother many years back had a little black/white bitch bred off Tramp Red Boy x W. Martin's lady.

    This bitch was well built and could mop up the floor with anything her size. When trying to work her in a pre keep. She showed to have a bad joint in her back leg or what is called a gimp leg. Was of no avail what ever we tried, the defect was inherited. We did not breed her but used her for a roll dog.

    I would not breed this dog since he may pass this defect into the puppies. Use him as a roll dog, but doubt it can be properly conditioned.

    Fellows no matter how we feel or disagree. If everyone is going to start using vulgar and profane language to express one's self to each other. Why bother to leave on lines pedigree site? There one can talk common as they like to each other and even post any sort of Porno they like and even harassment type attacks. I was hoping this site would stay civil no matter how one may feel.

    Standard's of a good dog man is not always how many dogs one shows or wins or loses. Some do better at the breeding aspect while others do better at the showing aspect. Not many can do it all and keep down a full time job. Cheers

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