Quote Originally Posted by rodburner View Post
well bud you seem to want to take this to another level....so..i'll invite you not only to follow me but take a look at my dogs also cuz. till then we'll just have to agree to disagree.and I think you know exzactly what I ment by my last post. but if you choose to turn it around that's on you. yea my dogs like it and I like the way they look and act. and they're super healthy. and you're welcome anytime my friend... anytime!.
Take this on another level?
The only level you seem to want to keep this on is ignorant.

I am sorry I get frustrated with foolishness, but you make dull statements and have nothing of substance to say.
Do you have anything of value to say, or just the same old defensive BS for mediocrity?

If you actually know something about canine nutrition, speak it.
If you actually know nothing about canine nutrition, then don't speak.
It's pretty much that simple: the practices of the ignorant mean nothing.

If you think your dogs "look and act fine," and that this means anything, then there's no point in my discussing the subject of nutrition with you.
Can you give a thoughtful analysis as to why the way you feed is the way to go, or can you only say, "My dogs look and act fine."?

Hell, my first 7 years in dogs I fed my dogs Diamond dogfood and they "looked and acted fine" too ... for years (or so I thought) ... until they started falling apart when they got old.
I was just as clueless as you are now, once, thinking I was doing the right thing by "feeding cheap."

Only with the benefit of hindsight, and actually feeding OPTIMALLY, did I finally look back and realize my dogs had been giving signs of not looking so good (missing hair on their muzzle, toes, etc.) for quite awhile before the signs were so obvious I could see them clear as day

Go feed a teenage kid McDonald's ... and mix it with some good food ... and that kid will "look and act fine" also.
But WTH does that have to do with the subject of optimal nutrition? NOTHING.

How some kid "looks and acts" fed a mix of shitty food and good food doesn't mean he's being fed optimally.
How your young dogs "look and act" being fed a mix of shit-kibble and a chicken part doesn't mean they're being fed optimally either.

OVER TIME is when the ill-effects of a substandard diet begin to take their toll ... and a person who never upgrades will never know the drastic difference a truly good diet can and does make.

I have had veteran dogmen hand me dogs they called "in great health," and the dog looked like shit to me.
But they couldn't see it. These people had never seen an older dog in optimal health, because they'd been feeding shit food their whole life.

There is no point in discussing subjects with people who have no true knowledge and do nothing but "defend their substandard practices" with childish threats or by inviting me to their yards.

I have seen, and FED, more dogs, for more years ... and TRULY tried to upgrade my diets ... than 99.999999999999% of anyone alive in the game today ...
I don't need to "see your dogs" to gain a clue in how to feed dogs. Really, I don't.

The fact is, it's quite the opposite ...

Jack