Yeah, neither of them was really a breeder, especially The Old Man.
I believe K.A. actually did breed both Tornado and the original Robert T. Maybe even T. Jr. too.
I know Allen bought the Carver's Bob Tail dog who sired him.
Oh, and I wouldn't call The Old Man a gentleman
But, yeah, at one time The Old Man had the original Robert T, Tornado, and Robert T Jr. on his yard ... musta been a good feeling to look out there and see that ... 23 wins (and no telling how much $$ won) between 3 dogs
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