Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
Agree with Black Hand.

I don't think you're understanding The Wright's Coefficient.

It is an idea, not a certainty. It is theoretical, not absolute.

Really read that blurb on there and it explains why.

Two littermates can have the same W.I.C. and one might be a spitting image of the dog inbred upon ... while the other may pull from a whole other aspect.
Same pedigree; same W.I.C.; two totally different gene pools.

On the other hand, the more absolutely uniform (and consistent) the whole litter is, the more you really have found paydirt for yourself

That is why selection is always the key.

Not understanding this difference is why one guy will keep the quality in his line going, while another will lose it altogether and have the proverbial "paper tigers."
Most people who buy dogs and breed them have some initial success (and some don't), but after awhile they breed the quality and consistency out of their dogs, only to have to start over again.
Why? They have no real goals, no real selection criteria. They just breed "dogs that scratch" together.

Never breed tight, just to breed tight.
Never outcross, just to outcross.

Only inbreed on the right dogs if you want to be successful ... otherwise you'll crash and burn inbreeding on the wrong dogs.
Only outcross if your line has truly lost something ... and only choose another line that consistently has what you need ... then select the best individuals of that line to utilize.

If your dogs aren't truly outstanding in some key way(s), don't inbreed on them.
If your dogs are able to win consistently, then don't outcross, keep doing what you're doing, selecting from within your own line to streamline the traits you're after.

If you don't understand what I mean by any of this, or can't be specific in your own mind as to what traits you want, you shouldn't be breeding dogs at all yet.

Jack
Jack correct me if I am mistaken here. Another thing that I noticed too in a lot of truly great breeders is that they are not in a rush to breed their dogs and water them down too quickly. What I mean by that is for example Jack, you have had dogs and have been breeding for 15 or 20+ years and yet all of your key foundation dogs like Ch Hammer, Poncho & Silver Back are still all right there in the 1st, 2nd & 3rd generations. On the other hand, I've seen people that have only had dogs for 5 or 6 years and their key foundation dogs are already way back in the 5th & 6th generations. It almost seems to me like they put zero thought into their breedings. I truly believe that great breeders take their time and tries to make the most use out of their foundation dogs and only select the best off springs to continue their bloodline. This is just my two cents!

P.s. I have not bred any dogs yet...still in search for that special dog with that special trait.