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[Officially Retired]

Had a buddy who claims a bitch of his had a vaginal infection and that THAT caused the pups eyed to no open early enough and one of the pups come out blind. He says his vet said the vaginal infection was the cause. Any validity to that? What about treatment for Vag Infect?

Sure, infections can affect pups coming out ... same as they can kill the sperm on the way in, preventing the pups even from being alive.

Again, the preventative treatment for possible vaginal infection is in the (apparently still unread) portion of The Pit Bull Bible: Chapter 10; Animal Husbandry & Raising Pups; Preparation of the Female. I have even put the article here on this website.

I give a specific preparatory protocol to follow before breeding any bitch, specifically to prevent any vaginal/mammary infections.

I also gave that same specific preparatory protocol in my (still apparently unwatched) video on the same subject: Preparing the Female.

Again, I have always tried to be prepared ... and that is what I try to show folks who haven't yet got the experience.
However, as with gameness in a dog, the person has to want to take the time read, want to take the time to learn, etc.

All I can do is put the information out there ... I can't force a person to read it / watch it / or learn from it.

That part is on them,

Jack

[No Quarter Kennel]

mound - how are they treating it this early in?
I did the prostaglandin treatment advised by some guys on here and it worked for a bitch that got it about 5 weeks into pregnancy. Shit about killed her, the treatment that is. BUT, it ultimately saved her. She's on another yard and they are trying like hell to get some pups off of her, but I honestly think her birthing days are over.

And yes....if you accurately give symptoms, Jack will diagnose it 99 out of 100 times.

[SteelyDan]

From some research I did which I can't seem to find...

They had high success rates with prostaglsmdins combined with muscle relaxers and abx. Maybe talk to your vet about that. The study suggested an 80% survival rate with that and a 37% rate of getting pups on future breedings.

Those who have used prostaglandins like Lutalyse before know how dangerous giving them to a closed case of pyo can be. Talking ruptured uterus. Bad way to die.

[No Quarter Kennel]

From some research I did which I can't seem to find...

They had high success rates with prostaglsmdins combined with muscle relaxers and abx. Maybe talk to your vet about that. The study suggested an 80% survival rate with that and a 37% rate of getting pups on future breedings.

Those who have used prostaglandins like Lutalyse before know how dangerous giving them to a closed case of pyo can be. Talking ruptured uterus. Bad way to die.

I saved a bitch with an open pyometra with prostaglandin about 2 years ago. The treatment itself almost killed her. The vet I used then, said to hit her with it and the next morning, if no "bad discharge", hit her again and do this until it was finished. I had to hit her 3 times. Each time, was terrible. The vomiting and what it does to the dog is way worse than the actual infection.....or appears to be. It did save her life and uterus. However, I honestly do not believe she'll ever have a pup. She's had 4 heat cycles since then. All very weak, no swelling, no flagging. I bred her on one where she "kinda" flagged, nothing.

Best of luck mound.....I'd like to know the suggest treatment for a closed one. The only closed I had, I put down.

[SteelyDan]

I saved a bitch with an open pyometra with prostaglandin about 2 years ago. The treatment itself almost killed her. The vet I used then, said to hit her with it and the next morning, if no "bad discharge", hit her again and do this until it was finished. I had to hit her 3 times. Each time, was terrible. The vomiting and what it does to the dog is way worse than the actual infection.....or appears to be. It did save her life and uterus. However, I honestly do not believe she'll ever have a pup. She's had 4 heat cycles since then. All very weak, no swelling, no flagging. I bred her on one where she "kinda" flagged, nothing.

Best of luck mound.....I'd like to know the suggest treatment for a closed one. The only closed I had, I put down.

Read the pdf I posted.

[Officially Retired]

Read the pdf I posted.

That really is a good find, Dan, and well worth the read.
The article is extensive, and exhaustive, but a person has to care enough to read it
It gives statistics, symptoms, everything.

Relevant to the discussion here, and the need for a vet, this article states: "Each case of uterine disease in the bitch has primary to be considered as an emergency because of its potential of uterine rupture and death from septicemia," which is pretty much what I said in the beginning ... and is why I got so wound-up over the "sit around and do nothing" protocol ...

I will re-post the article again here: http://www.blendivet.de/PDFs/Pyometra.pdf


Edit: The reader will note that I said treatment for closed pyometra can be done, but it's rough and not often successful. Well, in support of this, according to this report the success rate is only 31% (16 succeeded out of 53 treated) for closed pyometra (compared to a 94% success rate in open). However, the good news is all 16 that successfully treated were able to whelp pups

[SteelyDan]

Sorry i got some of my percentages wrong on the success rates... but hey... THERE IS HOPE!!! Heres the research and info a great link everyone should have. Scroll down to page 45 for the closed cervix stat info. Please read the whole PDF its very informative.

http://www.blendivet.de/PDFs/Pyometra.pdf

[Officially Retired]

Good research!!

[SteelyDan]

It recently worked for us. She's in heat now. We shall see if she's viable shalt we?!

[Officially Retired]

That is nice to hear ... best of luck