really?? Thought that was the a dying breed of men... I love the carpet, a friend of mines long long long time ago, had the Jenny that would collaspe down and he could put it away. Was the coolest thing I ever seen and since I couldn't get one like it never did. I like free range conditioning and I love the Carpet mill... Did get to see a dog run on the Gambler mills and those mills are a thing of beauty and worth their grain in salt.. But back to the Jenny he had a very interesting way of shaping a hound on a Jenny and it was genius and he got some great work out of it even some strength & drive work.