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Here we go again, here is another monkey wrench in the spokes so to speak of. I am fixing to really throw down some good ole hear say. There have been several articles written on the famed Henry dogs that Tudor used. Not all came black, some came snow white and sure other colors. Probably the earliest articles just speaking of his dogs are the most correct.
One of the articles on Jack Kelley's site had that same type article asking the question. Why all the black dogs Boudreaux suddenly came up with. For as I am concerned only he knows, I certainly do not know and as of today no longer care.
The story centers around AKA Dirty Harry and Scotty Nelson. Seems Scotty Nelson was told by (I do not know who). That Earl Tudor bought dogs from England from I assume the same source that the Henry dogs came from. ( Note I am Assuming a lot here). LOL
That Tudor had some of these dogs on into the mid 50's. That he kept two sets of record keeping and registered all those crosses under the Dibo line of dogs. That most of these Dogs came black or black brindle with even black gums. Were said to be very rough hard biting dogs, but in some cases liking deep gaminess. What was referred to as those crazy, hot to fight, red eyed black Henry dogs.
Now if that is some of the Truth about Mr. Tudor's dogs and I myself am not saying it is. Mayfield trying to claim he has the purest Blue Blooded Henry dogs is still a moot point. Being Tudor supposedly kept two sets of dog registries. Who if any, really got the most of the Henry breeding in their Tudor dogs. If this be true only Tudor knows who got what.
Now on the other hand, knowing how most of the older family's of USA dogs are bred. I say if you want a Truer bred Tudor Old Family bred dog/with the most known Henry breeding in it. According to much more accurate pedigrees that the UKC has.
You will find the last old family Tudor/Henry dogs is in Peggy Harper's AM Staff dogs that lived not far down the road from Mr. Maurice Carver. I was sitting at the serving table in the Bowman restaurant with Mr. Teal/Mr. E. Skinner eating breakfast, many years ago. Something came up about Carver and his dogs. That is when I heard that if Mrs. Harper got one of those staffs that would not refuse to fight any dog it saw. Became uncontrollable.
She called Mr. Carver, and he came and picked the dog up. The Staff was checked out and if showed deep gaminess etc. Was bred in his stock of dogs. Now once again (hear say) and if done no one knows how many times.
I have talked before about Mr. Ralph Dailey's last dogs, who lived in Sumter S.C. From the talk about staff x pits being crossed from Mr. Teal and Egan. A. Howle and self visited this older dog breeder in Sumter S.C.. To find he had some straight Tacoma/Doyle Staff dogs and some Tacoma/Doyle x Charles Medlin crossed dogs. We got a dog and bitch off the Tacoma/Doyle x Medlin cross.
These dogs were black and white and turned out to be very good dogs. We both being rank rookies and thinking we could go back to that well and get more like them. Matched the male and he took his death while giving out a lot of punishment and receiving it. Never made a bad move proving to be dead game. The bitch lost her life in a five minute freak roll accident on my Ginger bitch off Snake x Tina cross. Died in a matter of seconds without a whimper. When we lost her was both very upset.
We borrowed money from the bank and went back to get some more dogs from Mr. Dailey. That well had run dry as he had died. His wife gave away or had the remaining dogs put down. Took years of dog papers and all the UKC Blood line journals he had and much more to the dump. Offered us no useable info., told us to leave and never come back.
One of MR. Dailey's straight bred Staff bitch dogs that was popular in the Camden S.C. area. Was a bitch dog called Foots. She had won at least two or three matches and was a very good dog. Very strong well built light brindle bitch with white stocking feet. Hench the name Foots.
Foots was bred to the famed Kelly's Willie dog and to McNeil's (Young's) Chuck dog. I saw Foots and her pups off Chuck on McNeil's yard. Went back later in hopes of buying a couple of the pups. Foots and the pups were gone and McNeil did not want to say who had them. I suspected their had been some paper changing to cover up the Staff breeding.
Was one Bitch off the Willie x Foots breeding that a Black man owned. He kept this bitch in ready to go off the chain condition. Beat and killed a lot of dogs brought there just to whip her.
So it appears that maybe Tudor and Carver along with some local dog men did or may have used some Staff blood up into the mid 70's or so. Probably not today.
Mike Ferris used a lot of the Doyle/Tacoma dogs and just maybe, (just maybe) Tudor might have as well. Instead of spending money to ship Staff dogs from England. I would think it would cost good money back then to ship a Staff dog from England. I did not get the impression that Tudor was a wealthy man that could spend money in that fashion. Once again only he knew. If there is a will there is a way. Once again if the stories and rumors be true.
So, see how I have added interesting true story's with some rumors or hear say that can not be proven today or back then. If one has well built, good acting dogs today. All the dogs look a like and not a Heinz 57 assortment of looking dogs. You are ahead of the game. Only one thing left to do some day. That is the oil checking/ culling process/matching process that will prove the real deal Truth for all to see and know. Cheers
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