DISPUTED OR FAKE PEDS FROM THE PAST AND PRESENT .

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Jack im a mayfield fan yes , but if you are also sinking to having to try to sheep dip me rather than if you are intersted of course in the thread, to maybe give me a more real world scenario that disputes the blind billy one that is not mine but floyds
own words, but so far it seems like the only disciples around here wear floyd t shirts along with huge rose coloured glasses

Without being disrespectful, I don't care one wit about Floyd Boudreaux either.
Never wanted that line of dogs, though I am well aware of their accomplishments.

I laugh in your face if you believe I wear rose-colored glasses about him or any other dogman.

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and believe me jack unlike many who think there so damn good i would never claim to be on mayfields level but no one on this thread is either , and what i find embarasing is a men on here who call themselves knowledgeable but put up embarasing scenarios to cover up for what is the truth ,that jack is truly embarasing,

Mayfield's level? WTF does that mean?

You can put Mayfield on some super-high level "above you" (on some heoric pedestal) if you'd like, but I certainly don't put him above myself, on ANY level, save maybe as a knowledgeable conditioner of dogs for his day.
On every other subject that pertains to dogs, from medical knowledge, to knowledge of diseases and nutritional information, to the knowledge of how to successfully breed one's own family of dogs, I am FAR more knowledgeable than Mayfield ever dreamed to be.

I do have a modicum of respect for the man as a conditioner, as well as for being around (and a part of) the foundational history for our breed ... but most of what he did is now considered outdated ... and there are too many levels where I would not want to be "like him" in any way, shape, or form.

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and for you to also think its funny to put up fotos of downs syndrome kid to poke fun at me, surprises me jack , we may not agree on much but i never thought you were a person that would allow a foto like that to be posted, not becasue of me but for anyone who may have a child like that and think that you guys find it funny regardless of if its to poke fun at me or anyone else , thats not nice jack

First of all, I never claimed to be nice. I try to run a class operation here ... and I will not allow porn or vile nasty stuff to be posted here. I try to allow freedom of speech, so long as it isn't vile or abusive, and I think harmless posts like what Evo put are just that ... harmless fun. And, quite frankly, I agree with his gist: namely that you are the textbook definition of someone who lacks the sense as to when to shut up and just drop a subject. On EVERY thread where you've posted, you have ultimately turned it into an insane, never-ending digression of repetitive stupidity where you have basically had to be told to SHUT UP before you finally do.

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and your obvious taking of sides against me becasue of our locking horns once before is showing itself by the way you always pull me up about anything i say, but tell randy what a fair post he made,or say nothing when others insult me and worse, when randys words were an outright putdown of mayfield and quotes from others which adde no new evidence or theorys to any of the dogs so far mentioned, and he just posts as a direct way to stick the knife in again on mayfield ,and that is starting to look a little one sided jack and referee
seems to be in on it.

I actually joined in on this thread in a positive way, trying to bury the hatchet with you, trying to let bygones be bygones, and I participated constructively on the first page or so.
(Go back and re-read the first page, genius.)

However, EVERYONE HERE has gotten sick of you droning on-and-on-and-on-and-on about Don Mayfield's theories. Every one.

You don't seem to have the sense to understand anything around you.
You don't seem to have the sense to let well enough alone and move on.
Time and time again, you digress into a never-ending diatribe of mindless stupidity.
Tine and time again, you have to be forced to shut up.

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SO jack if randys sticking the knife into mayfield on every post he makes is fair, of course he always starts by saying WELL I HAVE NOTHING AGAISNT MAYFIELD , then goes on to character asasinate him but thats fair in your view sorry very fair, wow, well hows this for fair, two can play that game, as in my posts regardless of who agrees with it or not, i have made my posts based on evidence not just the man , but now lets play randys way shall we.

Randy is allowed to say what he wants, to an extent, as you are allowed to say what you want, to an extent.

Randy's opinion is more valuable than yours because he lived through these times ... whereas you are just a guy parroting "what you heard" on a video

This doesn't mean I believe everything Randy says, and it doesn't mean that I don't, but I *do* find his statements more interesting, compelling, and closer to what OTHER old-timers I personally know (who lived through this era also) have always said about Mayfield.

With all due respect, you are just a parrot here by comparison, repeating things with ZERO actual knowledge or experience of what you repeat.

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A good dogman in arizona once told me that anything floyd told him he wouldnt believe , now hows that for fair jack , we can all say stuff out of context, that is just for a personal agenda, but neither randy or anyone else has offered a reasonalbe theory because their isn't one realistic expalntion with a shread of proof to contradict the facts with any certianty, but you and others feel in your rights to riddicule me yet with no reason other than having it in for me and maybe just like lots of untruths when we start to reveal them, maybe

Like I said, I could care less about Floyd Boudreaux also, and I have heard it said the only time Floyd lies is when he opens his mouth ... so what?
Heard the same thing about Carver too. Heard Tudor was a wife-beater, liar, and a cheat. Again, so what?

They were just DOGmen, not saints. Not people to emulate.

I would listen intently to what Carver had to say about breeding dogs ... or which dogs HE had that were his favorites ... and WHY ... and it would be of great historical interest to me.
I would do the same thing to what Tudor had to say about his breedings ... or which dogs were HIS favorites ... and WHY ... and it would likewise be of great historical interest to me.
Same with Mayfield.

But I would take NONE of these men's advice on what to feed, what to do medically ... and I don't need anyone's advice on how to breed my own dogs ... and I sure as shit wouldn't trust ANY of these men to be alone with my woman or to keep and feed a super-valuable dog of mine on their yards. Wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.

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knowing that once we start down the rabbit hole of truth , the fear of how deep will it take us is not something all men can face , it takes a little more courage than normal
to go that deep jack, but in the end its always worth it if one has a value for the truth.

Oh please spare me this overly-dramatic greenhorn bullshit

Other than peripheral historical interest, I don't give a damn about Blind Billy and his breeding, Floyd's dogs, nor Mayfield's. Has nothing to do with me, my goals, my bloodline, nor anything I can in any way control ... nor would it affect me in any way if I were still breeding my own dogs.

If Don Mayfield were to come here and start debating Floyd, that would be interesting.
Randy Fox coming here to give his $0.02 about the situation is interesting.

But "you" (a guy who has nothing to do with anything) repeating yourself and going on--and-on-and-f***ing-on about this shit is nauseating.

Jack