Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter Kennel View Post
Here you go ProjectX - You ready? Sincere, all the way. Since I don't know for a fact that you lied, I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart apologize for calling you a liar. To break it down even further and to make sure you all understand - I APOLOGIZE FOR CALLING YOU A LIAR! Sincere and all.

Now I would expect a "MAN" to apologize back at me for calling me all those tasteless things you called me now. Making accusations against my manhood???? That hurts and being a "real man" of honesty and integrity, I expect a full apology from you now.

Now, my contribution to what agitates you so much. 1st - For any man to have 400 recorded conversations with anyone, for any reason turns me away from that person instantly. Seriously. What is driving or burning this guy up inside so bad to motivate him to spend (in my opinion waste) this much time just to be able to say "AH HA - GOTCHA". Seriously. Nothing but this thread has come from Mayfield and his recordings. Nothing fruitful in any sense of the meaning. 2nd - You say calling him a snitch is doing so "with no proof". This is exactly what you are doing. You are calling people liars, which you don't like to be called, with no proof. Recordings of people saying things doesn't make anyone a liar, unless, you can prove who's on the tapes. If you can't do that, then you sir, "have no proof". So I'm merely doing the same thing you are doing. To take it a step further, to show you how nice and willing I am to work with you, I actually DO BELIEVE that it's Mayfield on your tapes, but still, me believing, you believing and everyone on this planet believing anything, does not PROVE anything to be a fact. So you are stirring a pot, as interesting as it might could be, with NO PROOF.

So, my contribution to your topic is not about the dogs as I have stated and will continue to do so, I couldn't care less about the breeding of the dogs you mention. It won't do me, my dogs, or anyone else any good to change the pedigree of the dogs you brought here. Even if you are right and the ADBA changes the pedigree - what was gained? Nothing. Nothing of substance anyways. No one is going to go out, put their entire yard down and start over are they? No one is going to build a memorial to Don Mayfield and proclaim him the most honest of all dogmen that ever lived or give him credit for anything other than what he's already done. He's dead as is this conspiracy theory stuff guys keep digging up.

I believe this a wasted endeavor - this straightening out of pedigrees based on NO PROVABLE FACTS! That is my contribution and since I apologized, I'll look for your apology since you set the bar so high and the standard for integrity.

Take care, hope you find what you seek and may the Good Lord bless you and yours in 2014
NQK thank you for your appology albiet long overdue and looking at your post hardly well meant as you continue to try and make me out to be like you , when the difference is that you called me a lair saying i didnt have any tapes, which i infact did , so you called me a lair based on nothiog but your dislike of me based on our pms about things you didnt like hearing but you did ask me why i said it so i told you, and then you got all defensive and ever since its lets try to attack projectx
which resulted in you calling me a liar and then having to appolgise, when maybe it would have been better to just pm me and i could have called you and played you some of the audios over the phone , hell i might even have mad a copy for you .

Now i have not called anyone a liar like you called me, i have said in my view based on the evidence that we do have on blind billy that i believe floyd is lying but based on the facts we have and floyds own timeline and story, you had neither of those things when you called me a lair about the audios so its not quite the same thing at all, as i was infact able to prove i wasn't lying , but so far no one has been able to prove floyd wasnt.

Which now conviently you and everyone else dont want to see it as facts, eventhough the dobs and floyds own words havent changed in 50 plus years ,and based on those facts i have said that i dont beleive floyd and i do infact think he is lying, but i have done so not blindly like you did to me, that indeed would be very stupid wouldnt it, no i have questioned floyds version based on abda pedigrees floyds own story of the year he got billy and the very well, known and docunmented never questioned story of dibo and his life, which when you actually do a little research puts more than enough doubt on floyds version , but that is very different to you or me just blindly out of nothing more than hate or anger
calling a man a liar based on zero evidence of any kind.

Now mayfield made those tapes precisley for the reasons jack explained in him recodring pat patrick , to make sure he
could infact keep a record of the conversations so he could indeed have it on record if as an example when talking to maloney
he was trying to get the true breeding of tombstone from maloney or when hes talking to carver about pit general and indian sonnys involvement in that it was being able to understsand who was who and what was bullshit and what wasnt, mayfield said that the match with other dogmen wasnt only in the pit, he said that you can here the match in the audios as there is a lot that people say
that they say to tell you what they want you to hear and theres also lots of truth, and mayfield knew that, but i never said any of the audios were a fact , i said that it helps to hear them and then using all the pieces of the puzzle we are trying to fit toggehter ,we make our chice as to what we believe, and infact mayfield didnt breed to tombstone and sold him becasue he could never be 100% sure he was out of baby,although he felt sure he was , so i never have said that me you or anyone should take those audios as a fact, but more as a very intersting piece of gameodg history which if my few are anytihng to go by god only knows what other great stuff is on the rest of them, and im sure NQK even you who says he has no interest in long gone dogs , which is a shame as i think the more true pedigrees we have the better, but thats you and thats me, plus of course being a fair man as you claim to be i am sure if mayfield was infact elis breder you would not deny him that right would you NQK im sure you wouldnt like that if that happened to you, and im also sure that if you had access to those audios and were able to hear earl tudor talking that would interest you as it should ,and the man we need to thank for that is don mayfield he collected a libary of audios and documents that he said evrytime the indian sonny was at his place he always wanted to get into dons old wooden trunks full of pedigrees but never did lol , its a shame don is being treated like a nobody who has to compete with dog peddlers for some respect, when he deserves so much more from the game he certainly doesnt deserve that.

Nqk one last thing you say that this whole thing is a pointless endeavour , which in many cases is correct, do you beleive your pedigrees that you got from the adba ? (yes)then why doubt the dob on dibo which is not and has never been in question, billy was born in 1952 dibo born march 1951 and unless anyone can prove otherwise dibo didnt get to earls untill at least late 1953 or 1954 and theres never been any record of dibo being bred before that earls , so going by the things we can prove from dobs and arguably thestory of the most famous dog of the modern era in dibo are you saying that the proof is not there ,for in that case neither are yours mine or anyone elses if we want to call the dobs into question then why not everyones .

Now nqk i will galdly appolgise to you if you feel i need to, but first i think that i still need an appology without the follow on comments that is not an appolgy so when you send me that i will as a man of my word give you the same and equal courtesy ok .





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