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OK Project- Here goes. Have you ever seen these Bloodlines fight? The Cry Bavy stuff had a Medium Pace. If the old Eli dog would have been out of Crybaby. Eli should have been a slower fighting dog than he was and he should have stayed in holt better than he did. When he got tired he dropped his holts. How about The Nigger stuff and the Eli Stuff? Eli stuff fights all out a hunded miles per hour. Nigger stuff has a medium pace. Well I know you haven't. They do not fight alike. They have a little different system of winning. Looks like If the Eli dogs had any Mayfield blood in them they would similar in style. OK about Zebo. When Crossed with HoneyBunch the pups were not good dogs. HoneyBunch was out of Bullyson. If Zebo had been a Boudreaux dog. I believe a big percentage of those pups would have been good. Also, One unknown fact is Zebo produced not more winners but did produce more champions than Eli Jr. Or BullySon and a heck of a lot more than Nigger produced. If you line breed or inbreed Eli stuff you still get a good percentage of good dogs. But 90 percent of the inbred Nigger dogs are currs. If crossed right the Nigger dogs percentage is much higher but occasionally you will get a good inbred one. I oned several Nigger dogs and only had one game one. Mayfield crossed them with that Fitawater stuff he had and they came good. One female I had was bred on Tudor's yard and she quit for me. Now that is what they were like years ago. I'm not sure about today. Toot when he was on the chain and down in weight looked a lot like Tombstone. It isn't unusual for a dog to look like his sire no matter what the dam was. But back when the rumors you have acquired were established that's the way they were. Their action in the pit blows your theory all to crap. Is that any nicer. You still wont like that for an answer that is why I hesitated to hand it to you but it is a tad more proof than the word from dead folks and or rumors. Randy Fox
Randy thats posts a little more like it should have been , why all the annimosity before , but as for blowing my theory out of the water, well i dont think you do, not becuase i dont belive your opinion on a dogs fihgting stlye, and i might even agree with you on some points, but to blow my theory out of the water dont you think you should explain how dibo born in 1951 and billy born supposedly in 1952 (which would mean dibo was bred at one year old or less depending what month billy was whelped )and as we know as has been well documented that dibo was nearly 3 yrs old more or less before earl got him , and wasnt bred by tudor on the day he arrived on his yard , so even if we said dibo was on earls yard at exactly 2 years old, in march 1953 that would still
make it one year to late for him to be blind billys sire, and if it was nearer 3 yrs as is known then it would make it late 1953 or sometime in 1954 before dibo got to earls yard, so i would ask you randy as i have done in all my posts how do you explain that ? I can take on board your fighting styles opinion, but i think the dates need some explaining dont you before you can make such a bold statement as blowing my theory out of the water,i hesitate to say that to you incase you use it to say i wont belive anything you say , because im still waiting for a realistic explanation for how billy can be out of dibo based on those dates , and even making it earlier by one whole year doesnt make it possible, so as much as i take on board your opinons on fighting styles , that breeding wasnt done before by mayfield so how can anyone say what a dogs
fighting style will or wont be , and even dogs who line we know can be very different in style , i certaintly think that the dates need a lot more than that as an expalnation before you can say you blow my theory out of the water randy, i would
put it to you that if you presented your theory in a court of law, and mine i have a feeling the jury would blow yours out of the water as the dates are a prooof of fact , your opinion on what a dogs fighting style may or may not have been is just
an opinion and not a cast iron fact , and if crybaby x cotton as i believe were the true sire and dam to eli, then as that breeding had not been made before how can you or anyone else try to put that up as better evidence than the dobs of both dibo and blind billy which are not made up by me , but a record of fact and sworn to by floyd himself on billy , so randy
as much as i like the tone of your last post and hopefully whatever our views we can keep it to a level where we can agree
to disagree without getting to personal and just let others deicde what they want to believe or not believe, i think that rather than you blowing my theory out of the water randy i am very much still afloat and stillwaiting for that torpedo of facts to match my ones before anyone can say they have sunk me , but i can say this if they can i will be the first to
say well done , thats what were here for to learn more about true breedings not hide from them for fear that we have to play
a game of taking sides regadless of the truth , that gets us nowhere but down the same dead end road , but anyway take care randy ,i dont want to fight with you for the sakeof it, and when ever i think your right i will say so , no matter what has gone before , i believe in being fair regadless of alliances ok.