Ragedog , you obviously didnt read my post fully, i never once said that we should give mayfield credit for the eli line,Originally Posted by ragedog10
i said that as the blind blly dog doesnt show to be bred as papered by floyd, then it
would stand to reason if that is correct then crybaby x cotton were infact the sire and dam to eli and mayfield
should get his credit as the breeder of elis litter not the line, unfortunaly he was robbed of that ,but the we can do if proven correct is give him his basic credit as the breeder dont you thnk so ragedog.
As for your Facts, what exactly are they, you say that blind bllly produced a whole line of dogs, but thats what were trying
to find out in this thread ragedog, was it actually blind billy ? and if we can prove billy was not eli's sire then where does thast leave your Facts ? Do you think billy is out of dibo ragedog ? have you looked at the facts i presented ,that have been around
for many years and not all my own ? So ragedog if you can tell me based on the facts already presented that you still
believe billy is out of dibo , then please explain why you beleive that with some facts or a theory asto why ,just as i have done to suggest he wasnt.
As for randy knowing more than me, well after all his years he should do,but it doesnt look like it to me ,if he doesnt beleive
billy has a fake ped, he should be able to shoot me down shouldnt he ? And im still waiting to hear his view either for or against mine on billys breeding , but his offering up nothing in this debate about billy apart from trying to smear me so
he can avoid saying anytihng that might prove mayfield was right about billy and eli,but it would kill randy to do it, because he trys
every chance he can to put any doubt into any story mayfiedl ever talked about, and randy is never normsally lost for words ,and look how much time he spends talking about me ,when
he might have at least given us his view one way or the other ,maybe hes hoping he can make people belive im mad aswell as mayfield rather than give us an opinion ,
i wonder why that is ragedog any guess's ? Maybe cos mayfield was right ?
And ragedog i think i also said that tombstone produced a great record as a porducer, so why are you saying that to me i agree of course he did
and i also said general was stolen and as such mayfield lost the opportunity
to further match him or breed him , and i asked you ragedog, who now wants to stick up
for poor old randy if you would like to be screwed over and think its ok to just take it , when if we can prove
that mayfield had the credit he deserved for breeding eli taken away from him, and a the chance to
also breed those dogs himself as he made the breeding lets not forget for himself , then do you
think that is absolutly acceptable in your opinion ? but i hope im wrong on that score
and that if you ever breed dogs now or in the fuutre and the same thing happens to you that i believe happend to mayfield
with eli, then i hope you find out and can get it put right ,isnt that the american way ragedog well maybe you
didnt read the facts , im not going to bother repeating them again if you want to see them there on this thread ,and
just so you and anyone else dont keep saying i want mayfield to get credit for the eli line, i dont, i would like anyone who has been robbed as the breeder of any litter they have breed to at least be given that credit when it can be proven as such, by the greater fraternity and i belive if the evidence is strong then also by the adba , but thats another matter .
Lets think about this for just one minute ,if after looking at the evidence or proof on billy
and its shows to be true, then eli would be automatically be doubtfull based on the fake billy
ped and i think that even randy might have to agree if not on a public forum that mayfield was indeed correct and is the breeder of the eli litter.
Now if going forward from that , we say that mayfield not only lost his right as the breeder, but also of being able to do what he had intended to do with that litter and as such was
robbed of that opportunity, as he was robbed of that opportunity to breed pit general who
he did not breed ,but who he would have undoubtedly bred into his family of dogs ,and again that was robbed from him, so ragedog i ask you out of courtesy , please look at the evidence i presented about billy which leads on to eli and if you dont agree with my view, please explain why with a theory or facts that makes more sense than the facts that i
presented to explain my theory, but if you do find that you agree with my theory, then
i think you will understand why i think it should be put right not just to give mayfield the
basic credit he desrves for the breeding , and to somehow balance out his lost opportunity, but for the game and breed in general so that we dont just acceppt that this happens and
we should just do and say nothing , even when we can, thats all i ask ok.
Now as you can see i have moved on to another dog, so im not going to wait for a miracle
from certain people on here, who only want to play mind games that they can't win, id rather keep the thread moving and i have posted another dog to the topic , before im accused of wanting to demonise somenone , but just remmber it takes two to tango ,and they try to play games im there , but anyway ragedog that wasnt about you they know who they are , but i would honestly like your view so if you can please take the time to give your considered opinion one way or the other i thank you.
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