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Ditto Foxman. Well spoken. I found a simple way that solved my problem with some of those so called above issues. V. Jackson continued on with the Mayfield Sunshine/Snake/Coplin crosses. I bought the Carver-Creel bred dog formerly known as McNeil's Chuck. This dog was bought direct from M. Carver and I got to talk with the Creels about this dog. They confirmed I had the right dog.
Next I got the Chandler's Face bitch that was a Boudreaux/Carver/Mayfield bred dog. Face was bred out of Dwight Hathaway's dogs and C. Middleton's in bred Holt's Jerimiah bitch. Middleton went down to Texas and bought this young Black Betty bitch directly from Raymond and Sharon Holt. Black Betty turned out to be a good producer. I never knew of Cecil ever even rolling Black Betty. If he did he kept it private. Middleton was a good dog man and breeder. Was a smart man and kept his business and dog activities out of John Q Public's eye and the dog magazines.
I obtained a inbred Loposay's Buster x Lopasay's Beanie bitch through S. Shropshire that was owned by K. Powell. I got the C. Mim's Sally bitch from G. Cox. Sally was formerly a bitch owned by Duplechain who got his dogs from Roland Fontenot. Sally was a older bitch and off the Don Maloney dogs and a 1/4 Heinzl. Had no luck with Sally with any breeding's off Chuck. Was bred to Jackson's Tuney with no luck. Never got to breed her to my Jake dog but did get one litter off my Winchester dog and Spruill's Gr CH Jack dog. Some good dogs came off those breeding's. Those got drowned or stolen in Texas. The Gang buster's managed to keep a good one called Sally Cat.
From this blend of dogs I started on another line of dogs and added the breeding off the Zetterquest's brother's Crazy Critter dog. More Carver-Creel -Boudreaux breeding. All these dogs I started with were not young dogs. I had a limited time to bred up any pups.
From all this I started getting some of the best dogs I had had in a long while. V. Jackson took notice and asked me if he could breed his Tuney dog to my Face bitch and to my Monkey bitch and my Sally bitch. Which I did. He had wanted to use his Son dog but Son got killed in a kennel accident. Tuney was his brother and I think the last of those dogs. Got one litter off Face and Monkey but not Sally. I kept none of the pups and let him have all of them. He liked those crosses a lot.
Like I said before I had changed directions from being a hard core D. Mayfield man and wanted for once in my life to do my own thing and think for myself. I was getting much better built and more talented dogs with a Boudreaux/Carver-Creel/Mayfield crossed dogs than just the Sunshine based dogs. In fact the Mayfield Snake x Coplin dogs were much better over all dogs than the Sunshine dogs. Had tremendous biting power and wrestling abilities. All were small dogs.
Things were really looking good, then someone comes on my dog yard and breaks the back of my Chuck dog so bad I had to put him down. Later my little Monkey bitch had been bred back to that Crazy critter dog the Zetterquest brothers owned. She was full of pups and soon to deliver. Again while I had to work and was called out of town. Monkey had been heavily poisoned and found dead in the box. The culprit even stood her up on her back and leaned her against the side of the brood box. Was no sign of a struggle/bleeding of any sorts or a miscarriage problem. The bitch was so stiff she looked too have been dead two or three days.
From all of this, some other personnel problems along with worrying what day Mr. Law and the Humane Dyke society might pay me a visit. I gave it up and let V. Jackson take the rest of the dogs with him back to Texas. He blended what was left of all these dogs to start his last line of dogs.
To the over seas fellows like ProjectX/KeyStone, that bought up some of the last in bred Mayfield stock before he died. If still getting good dogs that can win and show gameness. I say be thankful and run with it. Over time if some of it starts not being up to par. You will have to go to some source of Boudreaux/Carver/ Patrick/ or a Tudor's Red Bill line to hopefully fire it back up. To worry so much about Blind Billie or any of those issues of 40 or 60 years ago is just a moot point. Best live in the today, no one knows what tomorrow holds for them.
No one had a monopoly on this breed of dogs from many years ago and will not today. Other good dog men had dogs just as good or better than Mr. Tudor or Don Mayfield. Stinson & Glover proved they could condition their dogs with the best of the lot. Including Mr. Mayfield. Was not so much the conditioning and certainly no dog rub. What got Easy was that killing mouth that the Ruby bitch had.
Was a repeat of history of what Lonzo Pratt's Mike dog did to Leo Kinard's dog. With Mayfield handling Leo's dog. Don was wearing a Texas Ten gallon hat and trying to hide Leo's dog from Lonzo Mike's dog. If you have the old magazine's pictures of that match it is quite obvious. Did no good, Pratt out smarted them all and flew his dog out there in advance. Lonzo's Mike was a well rested dog sitting in their back yard waiting for show time. Lonzo's Mike was a super bad bulldog.
Many times these line of dogs are bought and bred around popular trends and dog Breeder's popularity. When I got in the game, the Colby/Heinzl/Bullet/Hemphill OFRN lines were becoming less popular. It was the Carver/Boudreaux lines that were starting to be popular. Then later it was the Jocko-Red Boy-Medlin dogs, The Crenshaw-Jeep- Red Boy dogs. Later it was the Patrick dogs. Today many of all these lines are blended together. Far the better or the worse I am still seeing some nice looking Pit dogs today. You have some good dogs be thankful, if not keep trying till you get or find some. Cheers
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