The next dog that has a disputed pedigree is boudreaux's blind billy , this pedigree below is how floyd has him bred , and then we can look at the reality of whether that is true or not.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...php?dog_id=165

What i would like to do is put my evidence or theory forward to prove that blind billy was not bred as floyd says , but infact
was as many dogmen of the time thought , of unknown breeding .If blind billy was not bred as floyd says, then that would lead us onto how ELI is bred and floyds whole family of dogs from that time forward , but lets start with blind billy, and for that we have to start with tudors dibo.
Tudors dibo was born on 1951-03-21 and we know from the story of dibo that he never went to tudor untill he was around
3 years old , which would make the date for him arriving on tudors yard no earlier than late 1953 to sometime in 1954 .
Now if we use floyds own words from his interview in the times jan-feb edition 1989 ,where he states that blind billy was born in 1952 and he got him in 1953 by trading earl tudor some rooster for him, then i think its fair to say that it would be
very unlikley that dibo could ever be the sire to blind billy , and is far more likely to be a dog of unknown heritage as suspected at the time .
Now with that in place i would like to move on to the ELI dog , who is supposed to be out of blind billy ,which with the above info in place looks very unlikely also. Before i go on and psot what is belived to be the true breeding of the ELI dog,
i would like to post this story by don mayfield about the ELi dog as this should help to give anyone not familiar with the
story something more to go on.
THIS BELOW STORY OF ELI BY DON MAYFIELD

Let me begin at the beginning when I first started in the game. One of my first friends in the game was Floyd Boudreaux. Floyd and I got together right away, he had not won any matches and I showed up to my first match with gameness and conditioning and Floyd and I became close friends in the '60s and traveled the road together and spoke on the phone very often.


When I had the bitch Cry Baby in 1965, my wife and I got separated for a while and I took Cry full of pups over to Floyd's so he would care for her until she whelpped in 2 weeks. I got the Cry bitch from George Gillman and Curly Hayes. They had bought her from Evelyn Start after she had won a match with her and they went on to win one or two more with Cry after that before I dealed for her.


I called Floyd after the date she was due to whelp and he told me that all of her pups were born dead. But when I went to get Cry back after 7 or 8 weeks it was obvious that she had whelped her pups and had been nursing them till about a week or two before I went to pick her up at Floyd's. I looked real good but I never said anything about it to Floyd.


About 2 years later, Floyd showed up at pitside with the Eli dog. When Eli's match started, Curly Hayes came up to me and said, "Don, you told me that all of Crys pups had died", and I said "Curley, thats what Floyd told me but I got eyes and I can see". It was the fact that Eli looked more like a twin to his dam than he did her son that gave him away. Later, Leo Kinard came up to me and said "Don, where did Floyd get the BLACK dog? did Cry have her pups on Floyd's yard?"


A while after that some in the game like Leo Kinard and Junior Bush told some others that Floyd had told them that Eli was was out of Cry, and some years later Sonny Sykes told me that he had seen Cry at Floyd's with her pups nursing off her and Floyd had let him take his pic of the litter. There were 6 in that litter and 2 of them were matched that I know of and one of them was called Ellis' Pistol. Sonny told me that after Eli had won his first match Floyd came up to him and said that Eli was the pup he had picked out of the litter but had never come to get.


After that incident Floyd and I had our falling out and ended our friendship.


The hardest and gamest dogs I seen produced by Eli were when he was bred to bitches off the Corvino family by John Cotton and Junior Bush. All of them were game winners and I always believed that the dog Zebo was one of them when Eli was stolen from John Cotten's yard and taken to Indian Sonnys yard in California where he was bred.


According to this version of the breeding of Eli, his true ped would be:


....................Langham's Cotton
.........Little Cotton
....................Dolan's Lady
...Eli
....................Tudor's Dibo
.........Cry Baby
....................Tudor's Dinah
This is the full pedigree of the believed to be true breeding of ELI below .

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...3&dam_id=14044

Now as you can see from the story mayfield tell us that crybaby who was a black female by the way would have
whelped ELI in 1965 , so blind billy if he was even alive in 1965 would have been at least 12 years old , which
although doesnt rule him out under normal circumstances, i do believe with the unlikely possibility that blind billy
is bred as floyd says he is, it would be even less likely that he is the sire of ELI .
The story tell us and others have also over the years said that they had known that ELI was out of the crybaby littter,
and infact sonny sykes told of how floyd did offer him a pick from the litter which confirms dons story also .The other thing
is that floyd never had any black dogs before ELI ,and over the next few years from ELI onwards floyds whole line became
a predominately black line of dogs , which when you add up all the other evidence from blind billy on , it makes more sense.
I think that if we believe that blind billy was not bred like floyd says based on the evidence we have , then it stands to
reason that ELI and floyds whole family of dogs is not desended from blind billy ,but from the little cotton and crybaby litter
themselves .