Quote Originally Posted by Buck E. Owens
So is RF-1 and K-9 PERFORMANCE ...(for example)

are they nutritionaly fit to todays nutritional requirments for a working dog. And whats a good fat/protien ration for working and not working animals. If these write-ups are debunked.

Buck.
k9 performance brand has garbage supplements and a waste of money. Just take a look at the ingredients in it, especially the price.

Hell, take a look at k9 vertex supplement ingredients.

http://k9boost.com/Vertex.htm

"Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Whole Dried Egg, Whey Protein Concentrate, Poultry Liver Hydrolysate, Canola Oil, Olive Oil, Flax Oil, Flax Seed Meal, Spirulina, Chlorella, Alfalfa Powder, Kelp Powder, Pumpkin Powder, MSM, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulfate, Sodium Ascorbate, (Vit C) Calcium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, L-leucine, L-isoleucine, L-valine, Salmon Oil, L-glutamine, Mixed Tocopherols, (Vit E) Potassium Chloride, Trace Minerals, Lutein, Micro Algae (Asaxanthin), Ginseng Root Powder, L-carnitine, Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Lactis, Bifido Bacterium Bifidus, Biotin. "


The most active ingredient is matldexrin! Do you know what that is? thats sugar.. its the cheapest carb/sugar there is. in fact, alot of sodas and candy have it in it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltodextrin

So basically you are paying all that money for a product that is mostly sugar.

its a very cheap sugar source.


The second most active ingredient is a whole dried egg. save yourself money and buy eggs from the store. And whey protein concentrate, if you really want to feed whey protein, you can buy the protein itself. And the rest of the ingredients are the least amount of ingredients in it. which the dog would get if it has a good multi vitamin/other ingredients will be part of the food you feed if its a good feed.




Rf-1 is not bad but still is a waste of money, take a look at RF-1's ingredients. there is nothing special in it.(its not posted on the site, but i remember when i bought it a few years ago, it has it in the back of it) you can get the same thing from a proper diet and a multivitamin. A big waste of money, as you can get everything from rf-1 from real food and a multi. Tom garner is taking advantage of his fame and hustling people clueless on nutrition.


Tell me what RF-1 has that you cant get from food and a good multivitamin. You would be better off paying for better quality food than wasting your money on RF-1. If you are seeing good results from RF-1 its because the hounds diet is lacking and is not complete. So if you see good results with rf-1 then you can stick with that it, but if you are smart and want to save money, you can get all of rf-1 from a real diet.

And as far as protein/fat ratio's go, you wont be getting any info on me on that. I try not to let my competition get those answers as i like to have the advantage over my opponents. Same thing with the diets i feed. you wont be getting any info out of me on that. But I will just post things that have little effect on the game per say.