I'm not calling anyone out! Just stating Wat I have seen with more then one person on your board! if you think that you have learned everything in these hounds then Wats the since ? I wanna ask you this if you have your own breedings off your stock are you harder on them or would you be harder on a prospect that someone farmed out to you to see how it turns out? If you are a good dog man or woman then should you not know Wat a good one looks like when to and when not to cull and or breed! as someone has already stated if your not trying to better the breed of any hound then it's not right in my eye's as you have said your self jack if you don't have Some reads then your not being the best that you can be! Just knowing when to pick up and put your pride to the side could make all the difference! this is by far one of the best post on this site! You putting this site together with the amount information on here let us know you have a real love for not just bulldogs but for the k9 species overall!