Jfcole has PrimeApe's brother, Magilla Gorilla, also out of Twilight. From what I understand, Magilla is not a stone-cold finisher, like either Silverback or Prime Ape, but he is brutally-strong, durable, has world class ability, and an extremely heavy mouth (and he is a face dog to boot).

JC & crew have seen (and lost to) PonchoBack, and they say Magilla is as talented as this great dog was, but far more powerful.

JFCole is a member here and you can contact him if you like. I also believe he has some purebred pups on the ground too, out of Senna (photos taken at 4 months).

Hope this helps,

Jack