Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
Totally disagree with you and believe your opinion to be the great blunder in thinking of most dogmen: the game/cur mentality (as if there aren't degrees of gameness).

Gameness = the will to win. And the will to win does vary within the individual and *is* influenced by many factors (age, condition, health, level/style of opponent, etc.).

Anyone who thinks that a dog is either "dead game" or "a rank cur" ... and that there aren't an infinite degrees of gameness (desires to win) inbetween these two extremes ... again suffers from the greatest mental block and lack of understanding in these dogs.

Jack
I agree with you on this here Jack 100% like most things. Me and a group of friends have this argument about every 2 weeks over a beer, because they believe it to be absolute but at the same time will say "this dog is gamer than this one." How when you say either he game or isn't we all agree that its levels to gameness.

There is no true definition of "gameness" Like in basketball, to be considered a great Free Throw shooter you have to avg over 90% of made attempts. We dont have a universal, "yup that's gameness right there." Because I've seen many times a dog go well over 2 hours and folks hoot and holler how deeply game he is and I'm thinking, he is game to a degree for having the will to go, definitely has some pit game because he went that long, but one thing I've always was taught and seen with my own experiences, is that a dog will show you gameness quicker from being tired then he will in pain. The dog that went 2 hours dont mean he is deep deep game and will take his death bed.

For instance last one i seen go 1:47, they said that dog about deep game as a live dog can be. I said not really, he went 50 mins before he took his first breath and with his condition was able to control and lay the whammy on his opponent that was trying to keep pace and defend himself. With doing so shot his load and took his first breath around 20 and was trying to catch his pace for the next 30 while getting the whammy. By time the winner took his breath at 50, he took so much out of his opponent that even though he was taking a breather and trying to get past the wall, the other didnt have nothing to hurt him with. So that's why after taking a breather and bottom for about 4 mins he came right back up top with his 2nd win and was able to dominate.. Not that he wasn't deep game or that he wont prove someday that he will take his bed on his belly trying, but it sure dont mean because he passed 1 hour he is absolutely some dog that will belly whop all the way across dying while giving his effort.