That "Vengence" dog seems like one to have. Love it when a chocolate pops up! As for "Bolio Jr.", it looks like there was 2 different Jr's. However, they are bred very similar and possibly produced "like" animals. Thats more of a guess on my part. KZB dogs typically are looking for the body. However, like I stated earlier, there are variables. We are now seeing more crosses as a result of more access to the blood, so in time these animals will be a hot topic. I haven't talk to OMG in while, hope all is well. We have some history and are from the same small town. There were some major players there and dogs were the only thing that enhance tranquility in the city. A city full of doggers, literally! Typical dogman gossip but the streets were left outside those bar-b-ques.